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R348522
4 months ago
Szamko

A New York Daily News headline following the September 2001 anthrax attacksA New York Daily News headline following the September 2001 anthrax attacksBruce Edwards Ivins, a top anthrax researcher at the U.S. Government’s biological weapons research laboratories, died of an apparent suicide last Tuesday, just as the Justice Department was about to charge him with responsibility for the September 2001 anthrax attacks that killed five people in the United States.

Quite an opening!

R348523
4 months ago
manyhues

This article needs to be reedited and reposted, there are many typos and other errors, such as this incomplete sentence:

The letter sent to Tom Brokaw by the anthrax attacker

No wonder GNN is fading into obscurity.

R348524
4 months ago
Namaste_Rich

FBI Anthrax Case: Paid Witnesses?

In a stunning development, it is being reported by several news organizations that Dr. Ivins told a friend that at some point during the investigation the FBI offered $2.5 million and “a sports car of his choosing” to his son for info that could be used to implicate his father in the anthrax killings. Was he the only witness offered money to come forward?

R348527
4 months ago
aganunitsi

The original article is easier to read. Labels for graphics were copypasted into this version of the article.

R348539
4 months ago
anthony

fixed, sorry about that

R348542
4 months ago
sisyphus

holy fucking passive voice

R348546
4 months ago
Chameleon

this thread is disappointing. there’s no name dropping in the commentary section yet.

R348548
4 months ago
misanthropic

Fucking A. I need to pack me some cheese before I get into all this whine…

R348549
4 months ago
Chameleon

the press has glorified jean duley way more than she deserves, first by calling her a “therapist”. she’s actually a social worker, and according to smoking gun she’s barely literate, recently fired from her job and is on probation for her latest DUI, or which she’s had several. she claims that ivins has been “forensically diagnosed by several top psychiatrists as a sociopathic, homicidal killer”. hmmm. if so, who are these top psychiatrists, why aren’t they speaking up, and why didn’t they put him away, if he was so dangerous? i’d say someone made her a deal to clean up her record if she made up some drama about this scientist that the FBI was trying to frame (again). what’s sad is that the press has no incentive to report the truth any more. they have more incentive to report lies and defend their lying sources, just to get a story. even sadder, the american public takes everything said in the mainstream media as gospel.

Post Modified: 08/06/08 17:38:33
R348574
4 months ago
anthony

There appears to be a mountain of (albeit circumstantial) evidence linking the guy to the attacks. But just because it’s circumstantial doesn’t mean it’s not relevant, or legit. The bigger question, as Greenwald notes, is who were the sources that tried to link the attacks to Iraq.

R348579
4 months ago
verisimilar

this thread is disappointing. there’s no name dropping in the commentary section yet.

Mmmm… bait. Tastes like parlor poon.

But just because it’s circumstantial doesn’t mean it’s not relevant, or legit.

I had to read that twice. If we ever have our epic 9/11 debate, I will be sure to remind you of this statement.

The bigger question, as Greenwald notes, is who were the sources that tried to link the attacks to Iraq.

The same folks that sold US weapons-grade anthrax to Saddam? Oh, if only there could appear to be a mountain of (albeit circumstantial) evidence…

R348586
4 months ago
Chameleon

If we ever have our epic 9/11 debate, I will be sure to remind you of this statement.

no offense to either you or ArtB, but I don’t think anthony could take either of you in a debate.

he talks like a self-deluded msm’er the more i listen to what he has to say. can i get banned for saying that?

The bigger question, as Greenwald notes, is who were the sources that tried to link the attacks to Iraq.

suskind probably has an idea. i myself would suggest most roads lead to the vp’s office, regardless. at least up until 2006. at that point he was pushed to the sidelines where every vp belongs to begin with.

if congress doesn’t hold some serious hearings on this, and suskind’s claims against the cia, i’m done being anything but cynical.

Post Modified: 08/06/08 23:32:11
R348589
4 months ago
bacchus

Perhaps Ivins himself was the person who fabricated the claim that the anthrax contained bentonite.

That would imply that Ivins had a grudge against Saddam Hussein.

R348644
4 months ago
dikweed

Meryl Nass, M.D. tears up “evidence” at anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com.

Let’s cut to the chase . . .

Beyond a Reasonable Doubt?

Wednesday, August 6, 2008

. . .

14. . . . Here are the effects that resulted, at least in part, from the letters:

A. The Patriot Act
B. War against Iraq
C. A new bioterrorism industry, worth over $50 Billion so far, was created
D. The moribund Anthrax Vaccine Program was resurrected

Who benefited? Ivins was no beneficiary. (Had the Bioport vaccine been killed, as planned, maybe Ivins’ vaccine would have taken its place.)

You know who benefited:

  • The bioevangelists, who have made a ton of bucks on the threat
  • The Neocons, looking for an excuse to attack Iraq. The Iraqis may not have attacked the World Trade Center, but by golly, everyone knew they had anthrax!
  • Those seeking to consolidate more power in the executive branch, increase the surveillance of Americans, get rid of Habeus Corpus, and on and on.
  • The anthrax vaccine manufacturer, Bioport. Guess what? Its CEO, Fuad El-Hibri and his company Intervac bought Bioport in 1998 with $3 Million down. The day before he bought it, the Army agreed to indemnify it for him, for free. Then contracts totalling hundreds of millions of dollars started rolling in.
  • Twice last week, one day after Ivins went into the hospital with an overdose, and one day after Ivins died, El Hibri sold some of his shares in the company, for $200 Million. Did he think the company would get some extra scrutiny and its share price plummet? . . .

Emergent Biosolutions dropped 23% today

Thursday, August 7, 2008

Guess El-Hibry knew what he was doing when he sold $200 million in shares of the anthrax vaccine manufacturer last week, since the vaccine company Emergent Biosolutions reported poor net earnings despite sales being up 88% this quarter. On sales of nearly 16,000 shares last week, he would have lost about $50 million, had he sold today instead.

What is the legal definition of insider trading?

Note that some of the documents released by the FBI yesterday detail many past problems at this vaccine factory.

R348648
4 months ago
Chameleon

the better of the two motives the fbi put forward is that ivans was an anti-abortion catholic was targeting two catholic lawmakers who support abortion rights.

nevermind the positions they held in the senate opposing the patriot act and could have blocked it from an up or down vote..

R348682
4 months ago
verisimilar

What is the legal definition of insider trading?

Null… So long as your role in the institutionalized treason is protected under National Security.

R348695
4 months ago
anthony

Good find by Raw Story

Also, if you have an old copy of GNN’s book, True Lies, pick up and read our investigation to the anthrax vaccine.

R348720
4 months ago
HughJarse

The theory put forward by Mr Glenn Greenwald, Attorney at Law, is that the Great Anthrax Hoax of 2001(™) was used as a
‘smokescreen/casus belli’ in the run up to the Rape and Sado-Masochistic Ritual Abuse of Iraq (™) and the Rape and Sado-Masochistic Ritual Abuse of The US Constitution(™) (Formerly known as the US PATRIOT Act)

If so,
then the question should be asked:

What is happening right now that needs to be hidden by distracting our attention once again by re-hashing the Great Anthrax Hoax of 2001(™)’

Exactly the same type of finger-pointing and character assassination
that happened to Stephen Hatfill is happening now to Bruce Ivins.
Meanwhile exactly the same names of OTHER suspects are being once
again ignored by the media. Strange that, no?

So I think of lil’ ol’ Glenn as being analogous to Barbara Hatch
Rosenberg in this new version of the Great Anthrax Hoax of 2001(™)

Post Modified: 08/08/08 18:11:26
R348741
4 months ago
dikweed

Anthrax Powder: State of the Art?

By Gary Matsumoto, Science magazine, November 28, 2003

The Battelle Memorial Institute, a nonprofit organization based in Columbus, Ohio, is possibly the only corporation in the world known to possess both the Ames strain as well as a “national security division” offering the services of a team of “engineers, chemists, microbiologists, and aerosol scientists supported by state-of-theart laboratories to conduct research in the fields of bioaerosol science and technology.” On its Web site, Battelle calls this research group “one-of-a-kind.”

As subcontractors, Battelle scientists have made anthrax powders for use by the Army and U.S. intelligence agencies, but rarely by Fort Detrick, which specializes in vaccine development. Charles Dasey, spokesperson for the parent agency, the U.S. Army Medical Research and Materiel Command, says that as far as he is aware, the only dried anthrax spores made at Fort Detrick since it stopped making weapons were made by Battelle scientists working there for DARPA. This material, made in a biosafety level 3 suite in the Diagnostic Systems Division, contained killed Ames strain at a concentration of 326 million spores per gram—several orders of magnitude less concentrated than the Senate powder and crude by current standards.

Battelle is capable of more sophisticated work, as it also makes one of the world’s most advanced medicinal powders. Battelle’s pharmaceutical division, BattellePharma, also in Columbus, is one of the few companies anywhere developing electrostatically charged aerosols for inhalation. BattellePharma’s Web site boasts that the company’s new “electrohydrodynamic” aerosol “reliably delivers more than 80% of the drug to the lungs in a soft (isokinetic) cloud of uniformly sized particles.” Other powders, boasts the Web site, only achieve 20% or less.

None of this argues that Battelle or any of its employees made the Senate anthrax powder. But it is evidence that Battelle was a logical place to start looking for clues. Officials from Battelle and the Army declined to comment on any aspect of anthrax powder manufacture.

R352882
2 months ago
dikweed

Senator, Target of Anthrax Letter, Challenges F.B.I. Finding

By SCOTT SHANE, New York Times, September 17, 2008

[some excerpts]

Senator Patrick J. Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and a target of the anthrax letters of 2001, said Wednesday that he did not believe the F.B.I.’s contention that an Army scientist conducted the attacks alone.

At a hearing of his committee, Mr. Leahy told the F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, that even if the bureau was right about the involvement of the scientist, Bruce E. Ivins, who killed himself in July before ever being charged, he thought there were accomplices.

“If he is the one who sent the letter, I do not believe in any way, shape or manner that he is the only person involved in this attack on Congress and the American people,” said Mr. Leahy, Democrat of Vermont.

“I believe there are others involved, either as accessories before or accessories after the fact,” he added. “I believe there are others who can be charged with murder.”
...
On Tuesday, Mr. Mueller said he had asked the National Academy of Sciences to convene an expert panel to review the bureau’s scientific work on the case.

But Senator Charles E. Grassley, Republican of Iowa, said Wednesday that he did not think that was adequate. Mr. Grassley said the academy “would only be reviewing the science and not the detective work,” and added, “I believe we need an independent review of both.”

The hearing underscored the challenge the bureau faces in persuading Congress and the public that the case is resolved. In the audience was Steven J. Hatfill, . . . source

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