R340372
3 months ago

Ah yes, vegan potluck terror conspiracies. It would actually be very funny if they were not so very serious. Of course for those wondering why they need to invent these things and pursue legitimate dissent and might not instead be busy pursuing “serious” or “actual” terror threats, perhaps, as the more conspiracy minded suggest, they have no need after all to persue colleagues involved in false flags…just a random thought :)

R340429
3 months ago

Hahahaha.

So, you’re all going to be very careful now. Of course. They came and asked you to inform. You know they are asking others.

in other words, in the effort to stop actions, they have succeeded, in some small amount, merely by canvasing.

R340434
3 months ago

These terrorists will stop at nothing

Look away now!

R340450
3 months ago

Is there a weapon in the wok, good citizen? :)

BP, I have no interest in being careful in the sense of being deterred from ANYTHING I am currently doing.

R340484
3 months ago

i think the interesting thing, bp, is that although security culture standards are to not talk to cops or feds, in this case, voluntary interaction revealed some interesting information.

infiltrating the infiltrators, anyone?

R340583
3 months ago

BP, same as alexander, those idiots doing shit like that doesn’t deter me from doing anything. i am simply more cautious while going full speed ahead.

there has been a lot of green scare bullshit happening in this area for years – it just hasn’t made national news cause no one has been indicted. however, here too, the few times people actually did let the FBI in for a cup of coffee, they found out a lot of interesting information. if anything, we know how desperate they are and that they don’t have a leg to stand on. vegan potlucks? come on now…

R340584
3 months ago

infiltrating the infiltrators, anyone?

And assume that you are infiltrated and act accordinly, planning in a public house was the downfall of many an insurection…

R340594
3 months ago

hey, i like planning my bombings at my vegan potlucks, okay?.. its an old tradition, they can’t make me stop! muahaha!

R340610
3 months ago

oh damn, i bet you a big flashing red light just went off on some JTTF drone’s desk !!

R340613
3 months ago

Espresso Expose — let’s see that’s in East Stadium Village right by the medical complex. I don’t go to that cafe much, still, the reason I stopped doing mainstream progressive activism was PRECISELY because of the these stupid “vanguard” tactics.

So in the Twin Cities we have the “Freedom Road” moaists infiltrating progressive groups as per Lenin’s maxim of secret vanguard revolution — reporting back to their leaders who gave them a little red book and made them swear life-long membership.

These people always try to steer issue-based activism into some sort of vague “power” trip which is all about their little vanguard secret hierarchy.

Then there’s the cops and the FBI informants. When I was the Earth First! contact in the journal back in the mid-90s and communicated with Ben Manski and others in Madison, WI I’m sure my phone was tapped. Manski’s phone was tapped and he had a FBI informant as a girlfriend when he was out in Eugene. I heard strange clickings and weird sounds when I picked up my phone. I haven’t had a phone since 2001 — although the main reason is that it’s not worth $30 a month! haha.

So all these slick “eco” activists with the fucking microwave phones. That’s the funniest thing about the above encounter.

Anyway when I was doing hardcore activism at the U of MN my email was sabotaged by the U administration; the phone installer bragged to my house that they routinely install taps (as if just to let us know).

The problem with activism is just the level of stupidity about peoples’ obsessions with power.

You want to tell truth to power. You want to just discuss new evidence that is not covered in the mainstream media. But then there’s these power hungry goons — be they the Leninists (or whatever stupid vanguard group) or the FBI or the FBI infilitrated Maoists, etc. They have no critical thinking skills, no ability to prioritize and analyze information.

So then the threats, sabotage and censorhip kick in.

The fact is Mother Nature will take revenge against civilization anyway — we don’t need to do anything! haha.

R340626
3 months ago

i always tell people with me to take any double cross offers and money, and eagerly at that, with nothing but spiteful words for the group, and then come tell us all about it so we can do hilarious things

stand firm

R341150
3 months ago

Security Theater
Posted by Jay Ackroyd

Do you remember when, in the first couple of weeks after the WTC attacks, the airports were filled with National Guard bearing automatic rifles?

They weren’t issued ammunition.

It would have been dangerous and pointless to do so.

This is an example of “security theater,” the use of an apparent, but ineffective security measure. It’s an example of good security theater, because it reassured people without endangering or inconveniencing them.

Aside from securing the cockpit doors, all the air travel security nonsense we’re subjected to is bad security theater. It’s inconvenient, expensive and creates petty authoritarians, while doing nothing to make us safer from a very low probability threat.

In fact, much of it seems to be perverse, to make us feel less secure, more conscious of a very minor threat than we need to be, to enable an authoritarianism that is decidedly not petty.

Late update: Last week, I put up a post linking to an article by Bruce Schneier (most recent blog post serendipitously relevant) about border searches of laptop hard drives. Commenters expressed doubt about one part of the article, that British border security was looking for porn.

I sent Bruce a note asking for backup. He, eventually, sent a link to his NYT source, which included:

‘The question of textual pornographic material is more difficult. “By and large you can probably get away with a lot more with text than you can with pictures,” Thompson acknowledged. “But if we thought that any material was obscene, we would seek a legal opinion on it if it was a borderline case.”’

There is an argument to be made that consumers of child pornography should, like consumers of elephant ivory, be prosecuted because the production process is repugnant.

Text? WTF?

Update update:

Bruce wants you to read this one.

—Major Major

-Jay Ackroyd 15:00

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