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R339814
4 months ago
remarcus

it seems the most vexing, taboo discussion i’ve never really heard here

you want a solution for global warming, peak oil, soil degradation, et cetera ad infinitum?

deal with the consumers first

R339815
4 months ago
Namaste_Rich

I wouldn’t worry about it that much, remarcus.

The one’s at the top of the food chain have their own way of reaching equilibrium. Killing each other is one of them…

R339816
4 months ago
Namaste_Rich

The Earth’s actions make up the difference…

R339817
4 months ago
Namaste_Rich

One thing we need to admit to ourselves as humans is…

We will never have control – of anything – ever.

Admitting that would be a wonderful first step.

R339828
4 months ago
remarcus

ahh, destiny.. any succesful creature is doomed to eat itself into extinction

that is the nature of reality and theres not a fucking thing you can do about it

well, thats a start

R339829
4 months ago
remarcus

excuse me, any succesful creature is doomed to fuck itself into extinction, heh

R339830
4 months ago
Namaste_Rich

And excuse me, remarcus…

I should have said the Universe’s actions make up the difference…

Do the Evolution

R339831
4 months ago
remarcus

so… theres no choice?

R339832
4 months ago
Namaste_Rich

I would say that everything is choice. We certainly can choose a different reality.

This thought crossed my mind today while I was meditating. You want to know what is is? It’s just plain awful.

There is nothing free in this world.

That is the most insidious meme ever propagated on the human race. There is nothing free. How awful is that?

“Payment” should be obliterated from the human dialect.

When in fact…all of life is free. You just have to give freely without expecting anything in return.

Gratitude is enough…at least for me.

R339833
4 months ago
remarcus

one of newtons thermodynamic laws infers you cant get sumthin from nuthin. forget which one

every act of survival has a cost

every baby born costs that much more to feed it

on edit: heh, do the math..

Post Modified: 05/10/08 14:36:57
R339834
4 months ago
Namaste_Rich

every baby born costs that much more to feed it

How so? Are you calling the mother of that child the cost? All the baby has to do is consume the milk from the breast of its mother.

If you’re going to blame the baby you automatically blame the mother. You point the figure of blame and there’s three fingers pointing back at you…

every act of survival has a cost

Which is returned in due time.

Post Modified: 05/10/08 14:41:21
R339837
4 months ago
remarcus

look, dont get me wrong, i love my mother and titties are my ultimate fascination

you, namaste, are taking this to a whole nother level

leave my mother out of it, i was bottle fed, bitch

R339839
4 months ago
Namaste_Rich

Were you also spanked?

Discipline is also a part of the whole nother level, my friend.

There are many levels. It’s our greatest strength to create levels – it’s also our greatest weakness.

In the end, it will be our mind that will kill us…or save us. I guess the choice is ours…

Just don’t forget the <3

R339858
4 months ago
Twitch

Condoms?

dammit, come on? What’s the answer? What do we get if we win?

R339870
4 months ago
Snark

I always thought that a couple decades of Children of Men-style infertility would do us well.

R339902
4 months ago
ill_logik

ahem, fuck population control, let’s get down to some consumption control.

R339926
4 months ago
JustLurking

it seems the most vexing, taboo discussion i’ve never really heard here… deal with the consumers first

curious thing that eh… almost like someone dropped a big fat smelly turd in the room. everyone knows it’s there, but damned if anyone’ll go near it

Post Modified: 05/10/08 20:42:38
R339930
4 months ago
Twitch

Happy Mothers Day!

R339932
4 months ago
mtnlungta

population control is everybodies secret answer
the only discussion is which list your on
meet the Duggers

R339937
4 months ago
criticalthinking

EXTERMINATE THE BRUTES

R339943
4 months ago
bacchus

Do you REALLY want to know?

I’ll let you in on the secret to population control that the elites don’t want you to know about.

Okay,

Here it is:

Birth Rate of Italy: 1.23 children per two parents.

There you have it.

Give people the standard of living of Italians,

and they’ll have 1.23 children per couple.

That’s a severely declining population.

Plus we all get delicious food, designer shoes, socialized everything, and villas by the coast.

R339944
4 months ago
bacchus

Here it is folks: the most effective population control mechanism yet devised:

R339945
4 months ago
Twitch

I use Birth Control glasses personally. I don’t know what it is about these glasses, but when I wore them, I never got laid. Go figure.

R340042
4 months ago
aganunitsi

My wife and I aren’t having kids. Is the Catholic church still vehemently against birth control? I thought I read something last year where the Pope commissioned the first ever “Catholic” study on the potential benefits of condoms in Africa. How much sway does the Catholic church (among others) really have over birth control use, anyway?

Post Modified: 05/12/08 19:28:41
R340061
4 months ago
sakura10

Since we’re just throwing some ideas around the room:

1.No tax breaks for more than two children. Unless you’ve adopted.*

2.Free sterilization for all men who want it.

3.Government sponsored propaganda on MTV, stating the facts about getting pregnant before you’re ready.

(*This would be political suicide, due to the current state of parent-worship in this country.)

R340139
4 months ago
remarcus

most of you g’s are completely insufferable. this blog is not funny

human over-population and its subsequent drain on gaias’ carrying capacity are no longer any laughing, fucking, matter. although twitch gets a nod…

(wheres fucking smellheavy when you need him)

we see evidence of this, here:

R340141
4 months ago
remarcus

aganuitsi.. the catholics funding a study on condoms… now thats fucking funny

sakura.. hitting wannabe capitalists in the pocket books and limiting the level of their greatest resource, i.e. “procreating human beings”, is political suicide and considering that successful capitalism is a dominantly male structured paradigm, self sterilization by the mother fuckers is way more than just a utopian dream…

cant y’all do better?

R340142
4 months ago
Truthcansuk

Aganuitsi – I thought I read something last year where the Pope commissioned the first ever “Catholic” study on the potential benefits of condoms in Africa.

He did, with the condition that the people using the condom were married…

R340143
4 months ago
Science

“How much sway does the Catholic church (among others) really have over birth control use, anyway?”

I’d say they have control when it comes to their sponsored charities, just as the US does with abortion gag rules.

R340146
4 months ago
remarcus

ill logic, ahem, fuck population control, let’s get down to some consumption control.

controlling consumption is a liberal wet dream… youre living it.

or, controlling consumption would be limiting the amount of mouths to feed. thats a pipe dream

R340147
4 months ago
remarcus

education cant figure in because who would educate its banana pickers?

who would pick the fucking bananas?

R340153
4 months ago
remarcus

its a geometrical progression

R340158
4 months ago
deadduck

To rip off Doug Stanhope, give people prizes for voluntary non-reversible sterilization. Folks love free shit. Give em a fucking microwave for the trailer or a tv for the crapper and watch the birth rate plummet. It’ll be like The Price Is Right only fewer games, worse prizes, no Drew Carey, and you also win some invasive surgery.

R340159
4 months ago
remarcus

i’ll take two, bro, one for my sister

Post Modified: 05/12/08 21:51:55
R340161
4 months ago
remarcus

capitalism cant work in a closed system

R340183
4 months ago
sisyphus

buttsex

R340188
4 months ago
desultory01

here
and
here
and here

R340189
4 months ago
sisyphus

Dude, that first one is a pdf from lifesitenews, some pro-life dogmatist assholes.

here instead

R340191
4 months ago
desultory01

so that automatically discounts anything in the paper?

R340192
4 months ago
sisyphus

not necessarily, it just means I ain’t gonna bother downloading it. I have enough to read without cluttering up my desktop with shit from people who don’t bother to make their important docs readable online.

R340193
4 months ago
desultory01

yeah eugenics has worked sooo well

R340194
4 months ago
desultory01

“not necessarily, it just means I ain’t gonna bother downloading it. I have enough to read without cluttering up my desktop with shit from people who don’t bother to make their important docs readable online.”

ahhh, fair enough

R340195
4 months ago
desultory01

here is one form of current population control, it’s been happening for some time.

R340205
4 months ago
remarcus

butt sex…

heh, i hear its over-rated. tell me more

R340207
4 months ago
remarcus

desultory, i like the second link.

conclusion?

R340208
4 months ago
sakura10

self sterilization by the mother fuckers is way more than just a utopian dream…
-remarcus

Here’s the beauty of free voluntary sterilization, it only costs when people use it. If we offer it and only 100,000 men nationwide take advantage of it, how many unwanted kids are we preventing down the road?

Sorry, that’s my only solution that doesn’t involve kicking down people’s doors and blasting men in the gonads with radiation. Which I would fully support.

R340210
4 months ago
remarcus

why just men, isnt that kind of sexist?

and why does voluntary sterilization have to be so invasive?

it seems the structure of our minds, or more, the structure of our self percieved and instinctual reality, states that we need to perpetuate our specific structure of dna..

i know.. heavy shit. youre doomed to the need to perpetuate your own style of the generic homo-sapiens-spiens. so have more of it. mix it up

FUCK

sorry, i’ve been thinking about this for some decades now

R340211
4 months ago
desultory01

rem I believe this “Pollution of water, air, and land has increased, resulting in a rapid increase in the number of humans suffering from serious, pollution-related diseases (Pimentel et al., 1998). Again, it is clear that natural forces are at work to increase human death rates.” supports George Carlin’s theory that “We’re going away. Pack your shit, folks. We’re going away. And we won’t leave much of a trace, either. Maybe a little Styrofoam … The planet’ll be here and we’ll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet’ll shake us off like a bad case of fleas.”

He goes on to say that “The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we’re gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, ‘cause that’s what it does. It’s a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed.” While I don’t think earth will “heal itself” the way he claims, I think it’s clear that we are fighting a losing battle against an indomitable foe.

R340213
4 months ago
desultory01

You’re right though, self-sterilization will never work. People are much too vain.

R340214
4 months ago
remarcus

not that this is in any way a statement toward a solution,

the reality of it is, humans are just stupid enuf to eat them selves out of house and home

somehow, i thought we were more conscious than that

R340216
4 months ago
desultory01
R340217
4 months ago
desultory01

I apologize if I don’t seem to have any conclusions as well, just sharing shit I’ve thought about.

R340218
4 months ago
desultory01

“somehow, i thought we were more conscious than that”

A Bukowski quote comes to mind…

“Humanity, you never had it to begin with.”

~Charles Bukowski

R340219
4 months ago
remarcus

maybe snark hit it with the ‘children of men’

divine intervention will cure it

snark watches too many movies

Post Modified: 05/13/08 10:17:44
R340220
4 months ago
Paul_Connelly

Sorry, that’s my only solution that doesn’t involve kicking down people’s doors and blasting men in the gonads with radiation. Which I would fully support.

have YOU been sterilised yet?

If not, why not?

and since it’s the women having the babies, wouldn’t it be far more effictive to sterilise the one’s that actually get pregnant?

one guy could impregnate 100 fertile women, but one hundred men could never impregnate one sterile woman

R340221
4 months ago
remarcus

i think it would have to be a mutual choice, like 2 people holding hands to jump off the bridge…

that was romantic

R340222
4 months ago
Paul_Connelly

i think it would have to be a mutual choice, like 2 people holding hands to jump off the bridge…

not if sakura10 has his way. Excellent solution : prevent the sex that doesn’t have babies from having babies. That’ll do it alright

R340239
4 months ago
desultory01

“i think it would have to be a mutual choice, like 2 people holding hands to jump off the bridge…

that was romantic”

this reminds me of a Palahniuk story…this is an excerpt from Haunted

I know it’s kind of long, but read it, if you haven’t.

—————-

Obsolete

A Story by Mr. Whittier

For their last family vacation, Eve’s dad herded them all into the car and said to get comfortable. This trip could take a couple hours, maybe more.

They had snacks, cheese popcorn and cans of soda and barbecue potato chips. Eve’s brother, Larry, and she sat in the back seat with their Boston terrier, Risky. In the front seat, her dad turned the key to start the engine. He turned the ventilation to high and opened all the electric windows. Sitting next to him, Eve’s future ex-stepmom, Tracee, said, “Hey, kids, listen to this . . .”

Tracee waved a government pamphlet called It’s Great to Emigrate. She flipped it open, bending the spine backward to crack it, and started to read out loud. “Your blood uses hemoglobin,” she read, “to carry oxygen molecules from your lungs to the cells in your heart and brain.”

Maybe six months ago, everybody got this same pamphlet in the mail from the Surgeon General. Tracee slipped her feet out of her sandals and put her toes up on the dashboard. Still reading out loud, she said, “Hemoglobin actually prefers to bond with carbon monoxide.” The way she talked, as if her tongue were too big, it was supposed to make her sound girly. Tracee read, “As you breathe car exhaust, more and more of your hemoglobin combines with carbon monoxide, becoming what’s called carboxyhemoglobin.”

Larry was feeding cheese popcorn to Risky, getting the bright-orange cheese powder all over the car seat between him and Eve.

Her dad switched on the radio, saying, “Who wants music?” He looked at Larry in the rearview mirror and said, “You’re going to make that dog sick.”

“Great,” Larry said, and fed Ricky another piece of bright-orange popcorn. “The last thing I’ll see is the inside of the garage door, and the last song I’ll hear will be something by the Carpenters.”

But there’s nothing to hear. There’s been nothing on the radio for a week.

Poor Larry, poor goth rocker Larry, with black makeup smeared around his white-powdered face, his fingernails painted black and his long stringy hair dyed black, compared to real people with their eyes pecked out by birds, real dead people with their lips peeling back from their big dead teeth, compared to real death, Larry could just be a really sad-faced clown.

Poor Larry, he’d stayed in his room for days after the final Newsweek cover story. The headline, big and bold, it said: “It’s Hip to Be Dead!”

All those years of Larry and his band dressing like zombies or vampires in black velvet and dragging dirty shrouds, stomping around graveyards all night wrapped in rosary necklaces and capes, all that effort wasted. Now even soccer moms were emigrating. Old church ladies were emigrating. Lawyers wearing business suits were emigrating.

The last issue of Time magazine, the cover story said: “Death Is the New Life.”

Now poor Larry, he’s stuck with Eve and his dad and Tracee, the whole family emigrating together in a four-door Buick parked in a suburban split-level ranch-house garage. All of them breathing carbon monoxide and eating cheese popcorn with their dog.

Still reading, Tracee says, “As less hemoglobin is available to carry oxygen, your cells begin to suffocate and die.”

There was still television on some channels, but all they played was the video sent back by the space mission to Venus.

It was the stupid space program that had started all this. The manned mission to explore the planet Venus. The crew sent back their video of the planet surface, the face of Venus as this garden paradise. After that, the accident wasn’t because of chipped insulation panels or broken O-rings or pilot error. It wasn’t an accident. The crew just chose not to deploy their landing parachutes. Fast as a meteor, the outer hull of their spacecraft burst into flame. Static and—The End.

The same way that World War II gave us the ballpoint pen, the space program had proved the human soul was immortal. What everybody called the Earth was just a processing station that all souls had to pass through. A step in some kind of refining process. Like the cracking tower used to turn crude oil into gasoline or kerosene. As soon as human souls had been refined on Earth, then we would all incarnate on the planet Venus.

In the big factory of perfecting human souls, the Earth was a kind of tumbler. The same as the kind people use to polish rocks. All souls come here to rub the sharp edges off each other. All of us, we’re meant to be worn smooth by conflict and pain of every kind. To be polished. There was nothing bad about this. This wasn’t suffering, it was erosion. It was just another, a basic, an important step in the refining process.

Sure, it sounded nuts, but there was the video sent back by the space mission that crashed itself on purpose.

On television, all they played was the video. As the mission’s landing vehicle orbited lower and lower, dipping down inside the cloud layers covering the planet, the astronauts sent back this footage of people and animals living as friends, everyone smiling so hard their faces seemed to glow. In the video the astronauts sent back, everyone was young. The planet was a Garden of Eden. The landscape of forests and oceans, flower meadows and towering mountains, it was always springtime, the government said.

After that, the astronauts refused to deploy the parachutes. They drove straight down, pow, into the flowers and sweet lakes of Venus. All that was left was this grainy, hazy few minutes of video they sent back. What looked like fashion models wearing glittery tunics in a science-fiction future. Men and women with long legs and hair, sprawled, eating grapes on the steps of marble temples.

It was heaven, but with sex and booze and God’s complete permission.

It was a world where the Ten Commandments were: Party. Party. Party.

“Beginning with headache and nausea,” Tracee reads from her government pamphlet, “symptoms include a faster and faster pulse as your heart tries to get oxygen to your dying brain.”

Eve’s brother, Larry, he never really adjusted to the idea of eternal life.

Larry used to have this band, called Wholesale Death Factory. He had this one groupie slut called Jessika. They used to tattoo each other with a sewing needle dipped in black ink. They were so cutting-edge, Larry and Jessika, the very margin of the marginalized. Then death got to be so mainstream. Only it wasn’t suicide anymore. Now it was called “emigration.” People’s dead, rotting bodies aren’t corpses, not anymore. The stinking, bloated piles of them, heaped around the base of each tall building, or poisoned and sprawled on bus-stop benches, now these were called “luggage.” Just left-behind luggage.

The way people had always looked at New Year’s Eve as some kind of line drawn in the sand. Some kind of new beginning that didn’t ever really happen. That’s how people saw emigration, but only if everyone emigrated.

Here was actual proof of life after life. According to government estimates, as many as 1,760,042 human souls were already freed and living a party lifestyle on the planet Venus. The rest of humanity would have to live on through a long series of lifetimes, of suffering, before they were refined enough to emigrate.

Going around, eroding in the Big Rock Tumbler.

Then the government had its big brainstorm:

If all of humanity died at once, then there would be no wombs and no way to reincarnate souls here on Earth.

If humanity went extinct, then we’d all emigrate to Venus. Enlightened or not.

But . . . if only one breeding couple was left behind, the birth of a child could call back a soul. From just a handful of people, the whole process could start again.

Until a couple days ago, you could watch on television as the emigration movement dealt with people who were still noncompliant. You could watch the backward populations that weren’t enrolled in the movement, you could see them being forced to emigrate by Emigration Assistance Squads, dressed all in white, carrying clean white machine guns. Whole screaming villages, carpet-bombed to relocate them to the next step in the process. Nobody was going to let a pack of Bible-waving hillbillies keep the rest of us here, here on dirty old planet Earth, the less-than-hip planet, not when we could all hurry on to the next great step in our spiritual evolution. So the hillbillies were poisoned to save them. The African savages were nerve-gassed. The Chinese hordes were nuked.

We’d pushed fluoride and literacy on them, we could push emigration.

If just one hillbilly couple stayed behind, you could become their filthy, ignorant baby. If just one rice-paddy band of Third World tribesmen didn’t emigrate, your precious soul could be called back to live—swatting flies and eating spoiled mush studded with brown rat-turds under their sweating-hot Asian sun.

And, yes, sure, this was a gamble. Getting everyone to Venus, together. But now that death was dead, humanity really had nothing to lose.

That was the headline on the last issue of the New York Times: “Death Is Dead.”

USA Today called it “The Death of Death.”

Death had been debunked. Like Santa Claus. Or the Tooth Fairy.

Now life was the only option . . . but now it felt like an endless . . . eternal . . . perpetual . . . trap.

Larry and his rocker slut, Jessika, had been planning to run away. Hide out. Now that death had been co-opted by the mainstream, Larry and Jessika wanted to rebel by staying alive. They’d have a litter of kids. They’d fuck up the spiritual evolution of all humanity. But then Jessika’s folks had spiked the milk in her breakfast cereal with ant poison. The End.

After that, Larry went downtown every day to hunt for painkillers in the abandoned pharmacies. Taking Vicodins and breaking windows, Larry said, that was enough enlightenment for him. All day, he’d be stealing cars and driving them through abandoned china shops, coming home stoned and dusted with the white talcum powder from exploded driver-side air bags.

Larry said he wanted to make sure this world was good and used up before he moved on to the next one.

As his little sister, Eve, told him, Grow up. She told him Jessika wasn’t the last slutty goth rocker chick in the world.

And Larry had just looked at her, stoned and blinking in slow motion, and he’d said, “Yeah, Eve. Jesse pretty much was . . .”

Poor Larry.

That’s why, when their dad said to pile into the car, Larry only shrugged and climbed in. He got in the back seat, carrying Risky, their Boston terrier. He didn’t bother to fasten his seat belt. They weren’t going anywhere. Not anywhere physical.

Here was the New Age spiritual equivalent of any fix-all idea, from the metric system to the euro. To polio vaccinations . . . Christianity . . . reflexology . . . Esperanto . . .

And it couldn’t have come at a better time in history. Pollution, overpopulation, disease, war, political corruption, sexual perversion, murder, and drug addiction . . . Maybe they weren’t any worse than they’d been in the past, but now we had television carping about them. A constant reminder. A culture of complaint. Of bitch, bitch, bitch . . . Most people would never admit it, but they’d been bitching since they were born. As soon as their head popped out into that bright delivery-room light, nothing had been right. Nothing had been as comfortable or felt so good.

Just the effort it took to keep your stupid physical body alive, just the finding food and cooking it and dishwashing, the keeping warm and bathing and sleeping, the walking and bowel movements and ingrown hairs, it was all getting to be too much work.

Sitting in the car, as the vents blow smoke in her face, Tracee reads, “As your heart beats faster and faster, your eyes close. You lose consciousness and black out . . .”

Eve’s dad and Tracee, they’d met at the gym and started doing couples bodybuilding. They won a contest, posing together, and got married to celebrate. The only reason we didn’t emigrate months ago is, they were still at their contest peak. Never had they looked so good, felt so strong. It broke their hearts to find out that having a body—even a body of ripped, defined muscle with only 2 percent body fat—was like riding a mule while the rest of humanity was zipping around in Lear jets. It was smoke signals compared to cell phones.

Most days, Tracee would still be pedaling her stationary bicycle, alone in the gym’s big empty aerobics room, pedaling to disco music while she yelled encouragement to a spinning class not there anymore. In the weight room, Eve’s dad would be lifting weights, but limited to machines or lighter free weights, since no one was around to spot him. Worse than that, there was nobody around for Dad and Tracee to compete against. Nobody for them to pose for. Nobody for them to beat.

Eve’s dad used to tell this joke:

How many bodybuilders does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

It takes four. One bodybuilder to screw in the bulb, and three others to watch and say, “Really, dude, you look huge!”

With her dad and Tracee, it took hundreds of people applauding, watching them up onstage, pose and flex. Still, you couldn’t deny it, no matter how perfected with vitamins and collagen and silicone, the human body was obsolete.

What’s funny is, the other thing Eve’s dad used to say was: “If everyone jumped off a bridge, would you do it, too?”

Experts advised this was the only point in history when we could make mass emigration happen. We’d needed the space program to give us proof of the next life. We needed the mass media to take this proof around the world. We needed our weapons of mass destruction to ensure full compliance.

If there were any future generations, they wouldn’t know what we knew. They wouldn’t have the tools we had to make this happen. They’d just live their horrible, miserable physical lives, eating rat turds, ignorant that we could all live in pleasure on Venus.

Of course, a lot of people pushed to just nuclear-blast the noncompliant, but vaporizing every little tribal island in the South Pacific, that left our missile silos empty. The radiation didn’t migrate the way you would hope. A nuclear winter settled over Australia, only for a couple months. Rain fell, and there was a huge fish die-off, but the weather and the tides had a shitty way of cleaning up our poisoned mess. All this emigration potential wasted, since Australia was 100 percent compliant in the first six months.

All of our nerve gas and deadly viruses, all our nuclear and conventional bombs, they were all a disappointment. We weren’t even close to erasing humanity. People hunkered in caves. People roamed on camels over vast, empty deserts. Any of these stupid, backward people could fuck. A sperm meets an egg, and your soul gets sucked back to live another tedious lifetime, eating, sleeping, getting sunburned. On Earth: Planet Hurt. Planet Conflict. Planet Pain.

For the Emigration Assistance Squads, with their clean white machine guns, the Top-A priority targets were noncompliant females between the ages of fourteen and thirty-five. All other females were Top-B priority targets for assistance. All noncompliant males were Top-C priority. If bullets were running out, a white-suited team might leave a whole village of men and old women alive to grow old and emigrate naturally.

Tracee always worried about being a Top-A priority target, about getting machine-gunned on her way to the gym. But most of the squads were in the countryside or the mountains, places where backward baby-having people might hide.

The stupidest stupid people could completely sidetrack your spiritual evolution. It just wasn’t fair.

Everybody else, millions of souls, they were already at the party. On the Venus video, you could catch the faces of famous people who’d suffered enough on Earth and didn’t have to come back for another life. You’d see Grace Kelly and Jim Morrison. Jackie Kennedy and John Lennon. Kurt Cobain. Those were ones Eve could recognize. They were all at the party, looking young and happy, forever.

Among the dead celebrities roamed animals extinct on Earth: passenger pigeons, duck-billed platypuses, giant dodos.

On the television news, big-name celebrities were applauded the moment they emigrated. If these people, movie stars and rock bands, could emigrate for the greater good of all humanity, these people with money and talent and fame, with everything to keep them here, if they could emigrate, everyone could.

In the last issue of People magazine, the feature story was the “Celebrity Cruise to Nowhere.” Thousands of the best-dressed, most beautiful people, fashion designers and supermodels, software moguls and professional athletes, they boarded the Queen Mary II and sailed off, drinking and dancing, racing north across the Atlantic Ocean, looking, full speed ahead, for an iceberg to ram.

Chartered jetliners slammed into mountaintops.

Tour buses careened off towering ocean cliffs.

Here in the United States, most people went to Wal-Mart or Rite Aid and bought the Going Away Kits. The first generation of kits were barbiturates packaged inside a head-sized plastic bag with a drawstring for around your neck. The next generation of kits were a cherry-flavored chewable cyanide pill. So many people were emigrating right there in the store aisle—emigrating without paying for their kits—that Wal-Mart put the kits behind the customer-service desk with the cigarettes and made you pay first before they’d hand one over. Every couple minutes, an announcment over the public-address speakers asked customers to be courteous and not to emigrate while on store property . . . Thank you.

Early on, some people pushed what they called the French Method. Their idea was just to sterilize everyone. First by surgery, but this took too long. Then by exposing people’s genitals to focused radiation. Still, by that time all the doctors had emigrated. Doctors were among the first to jump ship. Doctors, true, yes, death was their enemy, but without it they were lost. Brokenhearted. Without doctors, it was janitors shooting folks with radiation. People got burns. The power grid failed. The End.

By then, all the beautiful, cool people had emigrated with cyanide in champagne at glamorous “Bon Voyage Parties.” They’d held hands and jumped from skyscraper penthouse parties. People already a little world-weary, all the movie stars and super-athletes and rock bands. The supermodels and software billionaires, they were gone after that first week.

Every day, Eve’s dad would come home saying who was gone from his office. Who in the neighborhood had emigrated. It was easy to tell. Their front lawn would get too tall. Their mail and newspapers would pile up on the doorstep. Their curtains were never open, their lights never came on, and you’d walk past and catch a whiff of something sweet, some kind of fruit or meat rotting inside the house. The air buzzed with black flies.

The house next door, the Frinks’ house, was like that. So was the house across the street.

For the first few weeks, it was fun: Larry going downtown to pound his electric guitar alone on the stage of the Civic Theater auditorium. Eve getting to use the entire shopping mall as her own private closet. School was out, and it would never, ever start back up.

But their dad, you could tell he was already over Tracee. Their dad was never good at the part after the romantic start. Normal times, this was when he’d start to cheat. He’d find some new squeeze at his office. Instead, he was watching the Venus footage on television, paying close attention, his nose almost touching the parts where you could make out people, groups of those beautiful supermodel people, piled together naked or linked in a long daisy chain. Licking red wine off each other. Humping without reproduction or disease or God’s damnation.

Tracee, she was making a list of celebrities she wanted to be best friends with once the family arrived. At the top of her list was Mother Teresa.

By now even harried moms were rounding up their kids, shrieking for everybody to hurry up and drink their poisoned milk and get their asses the hell to the next step of spiritual evolution. Now even life and death would be phases to rush through, the way teachers hurried kids from grade to grade to graduation—no matter how much they did or didn’t learn. A big rat race to enlightenment.

In the car now, her voice getting deep and rough from breathing the smoke, Tracee reads, “As the cells of your heart valves begin to die, the two halves, called ventricles, get sloppy, pumping less and less blood through your body . . .”

She coughs and reads, “Without blood, your brain stops functioning. Within minutes you’ll emigrate.” And Tracee shuts the pamphlet. The End.

Eve’s dad says, “Good-bye, planet Earth.”

And the Boston terrier, Risky, barfs up cheese popcorn all over the back seat.

The smell of dog barf, and the sound of Risky gobbling it up, are even worse than the carbon monoxide.

Larry looks at his sister, the black makeup smeared around his eyes, his eyes blinking in slow motion, he says, “Eve, take your dog outside to puke.”

In case the family’s gone when she gets back, her dad says there’s a Going Away Kit on the counter in the kitchen. He tells Eve not to hang around too long. They’ll be waiting for her at the big party.

Eve’s future ex-stepmom says, “Don’t hold the door open and let out any smoke.” Tracee says, “I want to emigrate, not just be brain-damaged.”

“Too late,” Eve says, and tugs the dog outside to the backyard. There, the sun is still shining. Birds build nests, too dumb to know this planet is out of fashion. Bees crawl around inside the open roses, not knowing their whole reality is obsolete.

In the kitchen, on the counter next to the sink, is a Going Away Kit, the plastic blister card of cyanide pills. It was a new flavor, lemon. A family pack. Printed on the cardboard backing is a little cartoon. It shows an empty stomach. A clock face counts off three minutes. And then your cartoon soul would wake up in a world of pleasure and comfort. The next planet. Evolved.

Eve punches one out, a bright-yellow pill printed with a smiling happy-face in red. It didn’t matter if they’d used that toxic kind of red dye. Eve punches out all the pills. All eight, she takes into the bathroom and flushes down the toilet.

The car’s still running inside the garage. Through a window, standing on a lawn chair, Eve can see the heads slumped inside. Her dad. Her future ex-stepmom. Her brother.

In the backyard, Risky is nosing at the crack under the garage door, sniffing the fumes from inside. Eve tells him, No. She calls him back away from the house, back into the sunshine. There, with the neighborhood quiet except for the birds, the buzz of the bees, the backyard already looks messy and needs mowing. With no roar of lawn mowers and airplanes and motorcycles, the birds singing sound as loud as traffic used to.

After she lays down in the grass, Eve pulls up the bottom of her shirt and lets the sun warm her stomach. She closes her eyes and rubs the fingertips of one hand in slow circles around her bellybutton.

Risky barks, once, twice.

And a voice says, “Hey.”

A face sticks over the fence from the backyard next door. Blond hair and pink pimples, a kid named Adam from school. From before all the schools shut down. Adam’s fingers grip the top edge of the wood fence, and he pulls himself up until both elbows rest along the top. His chin hooked on his two hands, Adam says, “Did you hear about your brother’s girlfriend?”

Eve shuts her eyes and says, “This sounds weird, but I really miss death . . .”

Adam kicks a leg sideways to hook his foot over the fence. He says, “Your folks emigrate yet?”

In the garage, the car’s engine coughs and misses a beat on one cylinder. A ventricle getting sloppy. Inside the window glass, the garage air is shifting gray clouds of smoke. The engine misses again and goes quiet. Nothing inside moves. Eve’s family, now they’re just their own left-behind luggage.

And, spread out in the sunshine, feeling her skin turn tight and red, Eve says, “Poor Larry.” Still rubbing circles around her bellybutton.

Risky goes to stand next to the fence, looking up, as Adam hauls one leg, then the other over the top, then jumps down into the yard. Adam stoops to pet the dog. Scratching under the dog’s chin, Adam says, “Did you tell them we’re pregnant?”

And Eve, she doesn’t say anything. She doesn’t open her eyes.

Adam says, “If we get the whole human race started again, our folks will be so pissed . . .”

The sun is almost straight overhead. What sounds like cars is just wind blowing through the empty neighborhood.

Material possessions are obsolete. Money is useless. Status is pointless.

It would be summer for another three months, and there was a whole world of canned food to eat. That’s if the Emigration Assistance Squad didn’t machine-gun her for noncompliance. Top-A priority target that she is. The End.

Eve opens her eyes and looks at the white dot near the blue horizon. The Morning Star. Venus. “If I have this baby,” Eve says, “I hope it’s going to be . . . Tracee.”

Chuck Palahniuk
Excerpt from “Haunted”
——————-

So what’s the moral of the story? Even if we make it hip to be dead, there will always be people rebelling against the system to ruin it for everyone. So maybe remarcus was wrong about what the couple would do. Would they join in and jump off the bridge like everyone else or try to repopulate the earth? What’s that line from Jurassic Park? “Life finds a way.”

Post Modified: 05/13/08 13:46:56
R340274
4 months ago
GWHunta

I always thought that a couple decades of Children of Men-style infertility would do us well.
~Snark

Best post in thread.

Give people the standard of living of Italians
~bacchus

Best of wishful thinking in thread.

EXTERMINATE THE BRUTES
~criticalthinking

Most likely outcome.

Sometimes no Piece
~GWHunta

R340277
4 months ago
remarcus

All of our nerve gas and deadly viruses, all our nuclear and conventional bombs, they were all a disappointment. We weren’t even close to erasing humanity. People hunkered in caves. People roamed on camels over vast, empty deserts. Any of these stupid, backward people could fuck. A sperm meets an egg, and your soul gets sucked back to live another tedious lifetime, eating, sleeping, getting sunburned. On Earth: Planet Hurt. Planet Conflict. Planet Pain.

heh, i love chuck

R340294
4 months ago
remarcus

curious thing that eh… almost like someone dropped a big fat smelly turd in the room. everyone knows it’s there, but damned if anyone’ll go near it

yes

R340296
4 months ago
remarcus

where is livingston and the know it all ilk on this?

no comments from the biologists?

R340335
3 months ago
sakura10

why just men, isnt that kind of sexist?
I chose men since it requires the least invasive and expensive surgery. That, and men are more likely to choose this option.

and why does voluntary sterilization have to be so invasive?
See above response

have YOU been sterilised yet?
No, I haven’t been sterilized yet.

If not, why not?
When I have two kids, it’ll be off to the snipper. Two is the magic number for me. That’s why I mentioned eliminating the tax breaks for more than two children,(unless adopted). As much as I can’t stand seeing morons swamp the earth with their like, I don’t think its fair to deny people the right to have a family.

We can either initiate passive, though unpopular, solutions to the population J-Curve now. Or, we can wait until nature takes care of the problem herself.

R340499
3 months ago
GWHunta

so… how do you address population control?

Food as a Weapon

R340519
3 months ago
Truthcansuk

so… how do you address population control?

You say “hello, population control! How the hell have you been?”

On Edit: Oh, c’mon… you knwo everyone was thinking it…

Post Modified: 05/15/08 19:54:02
R340530
3 months ago
Science

hack

R340531
3 months ago
Science

speaking of hacks I saw joe piscopo live tonight…and that’s no joke

R340532
3 months ago
johnnycivil

leave the planet
make new planets or what-you-please
live forever

R340588
3 months ago
PaulConnolly

so sakura you’re advocating the solution of forced sterilisation for OTHER people? Just not for yourself, I see.

I chose men since it requires the least invasive and expensive surgery. That, and men are more likely to choose this option.

I don’t even know how you came to type that last part. Where do you access info such as that?

So, you advocate totally ineffective surgery on the half of the population that doesn’t have kids, in order to somehow prevent the other half from having kids, and all because ‘it’s what they themselves would choose’, an you know this because . . . . (G D told you?)‘but you only advocate that solution for EVERYONE else, not for yourself’

R340600
3 months ago
remarcus

heh, it is a choice… just say no

R340602
3 months ago
remarcus

When I have two kids, it’ll be off to the snipper. Two is the magic number for me. That’s why I mentioned eliminating the tax breaks for more than two children,(unless adopted). As much as I can’t stand seeing morons swamp the earth with their like, I don’t think its fair to deny people the right to have a family.

i am speaking of a population reduction, not status-quo, dear.

its doable, in this lifetime, by having one child per couple.

youre not reasoning this. do the fucking math

R340609
3 months ago
remarcus

what are you people stupid?

eating your selves out of house and home is dumb to begin with

providing for more mouths than is necssary is ludicrous

fuck, what are you people thinking?

R340620
3 months ago
Truthcansuk

I have four kids, Rem… bathe me with your breeder-hate!!!

R340621
3 months ago
criticalthinking

I rather like this paulconolly fellow.

R340623
3 months ago
HEMPforVICTORY

Since I only have one child, let’s borrow one of Al Gore’s wonderful ideas and I’ll give my left over .7 offspring allotment as a breeder credit to TCS

If only a couple more G’s chip in, he won’t have to start relieving them of limbs, etc …

R340637
3 months ago
Truthcansuk

Thanks, hemp. You are a great gorilla!

I actually opted for the slash-and-burn approach last year, so called because not only was a scalpel involved, but the incision was cauterized closed instead of stitched. You simply don’t know the meaning of the word ‘discomfort’ until someone who has just pierced your scrote with a needle starts using tools on your pink parts that cause smoke to swirl around down there…

R340640
3 months ago
GWHunta

You’re a brave man. That’s definitely not for me.

My wife bears the scars for the reduction of reproduction in this family.

Besides, if it gets caught in your trap, it could be “yours” by default anyway.

Sometimes no Piece

Post Modified: 05/16/08 17:12:28
R340642
3 months ago
GWHunta

_so… how do you address population control

You’ll get your answer just after the October Surprise in…....

KNWOvember

Sometimes no Peace

R340647
3 months ago
remarcus

tcs, youre exempted… thats my proclamation

R340648
3 months ago
misanthropic

I support abortion up to the age of 18.

R340719
3 months ago
remarcus

I have four kids, Rem… bathe me with your breeder-hate!!!

i dont hate you, fuckface… what you did in your past, you’ll live with, heheh

i am speaking of simple steps to ensure a sustainable future

factory farming is not the answer

i dont see why noone can see population reduction as an answer to all Gaias’ woes…

its fucking simple

R340721
3 months ago
remarcus

I support abortion up to the age of 18.

youll have to eat them, you fucking misanthrope

R340723
3 months ago
Truthcansuk

i dont see why noone can see population reduction as an answer to all Gaias’ woes…

I only care about ‘Gaia’ to the extent that I have a decent place to live. As soon as other options become available, this bitch is on her own…

R340725
3 months ago
JustLurking

I prefer to eat them 18+ myself

R340726
3 months ago
JustLurking

Truth… you’re such a heathen.. how’d we ever come to love and welcome such a ninny…

R340728
3 months ago
remarcus

the best meat

R340729
3 months ago
remarcus

perfect corn fed marbling

R340745
3 months ago
remarcus

but this subject need not be a question of eugenics and other philosophically ethical denials.

rather, its a question of common sense.

R340758
3 months ago
Truthcansuk

JL – Truth… you’re such a heathen.. how’d we ever come to love and welcome such a ninny…

I’ve always maintained that you all have very low standards…

I’ve just never had a romantic spiritual attachment to this ball of dirt I am currently standing on. One of the few valuable insights I’ve ever managed to have regarding The Way Things Really Work is that ‘Gaia’ may be many things, but it ain’t my friend.

Let down your guard and the bitch will turn on you like a drunken bi-polar ex-girlfiend…

R340759
3 months ago
alreadydead

The idea that a reasonable solution can be found in space travel is so viral its sickening. Let’s suck this host dry, as long as it provides a decent place to live. Virally we turn every component of earth that we can use to propagate our numbers into a “resource” and the remainder can wither. Then, when its finally degraded to the point of complete biospheric collapse, hey! the bitch is on her own and we spread to the stars, hungry for another host.

there is one solution to the population problem, the solution to every species run rampant outside of natural bounds just waiting for a real virus to show us how it’s done.

R340760
3 months ago
Namaste_Rich

R340761
3 months ago
Truthcansuk

Rarely has an embedded video been so relevant to the conversation at hand.

I ‘5’ you, good si