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R334348
5 months ago
johnnycivil

celulosic processes have long made making fuel from food unnecessary and inefficient… one can make biodiesel from hard wood waste and ethanol from pine waste or switchgrass (2.5 acres of switchgrass will run an average car for a year) all this story is about 1) controlling food 2) lining pockets with bs subsidies- the whole problem comes from bush saying “subsidy”...

further- solar is now cheaper than coal not even including the environmental costs
nanosolar.com etc

further- nanotech will make all this redundant shortly

R334363
5 months ago
GWHunta

Direct active and passive solar, in spite of the inherent inefficiencies, are the only means to a viable and sustainable energy future.

Economic prosperity and the health of the biosphere depend upon the total rejection of food biomass to liquid fuel schemes.

Peace,

R334368
5 months ago
GWHunta

2.5 acres of switchgrass will run an average car for a year

In 2004 there were 136,430,651 automobiles registered in the U.S. for private and public use.

There are 431,070,430 acres of arable land in the U.S.

Do the math.

Hayburners went out in the 1930’s for sound economic reasons, there is no turning back this clock.

Agrofuels can’t work.

Peace,

Post Modified: 03/26/08 12:40:52
R334446
5 months ago
johnnycivil

Switchgrass/hardwood waste/soft wood waste/ green waste from scrublands- not from arable land-
hey its better than corn!

R334600
5 months ago
symptomofsociety

Alot of countries nowadays won’t even feed their livestock with the GM shit that the US and Canada produce. Some food starved countries summarily reject offers of free corn from North America because no one will eat it. The UK Soil Association determined that GM crops have cost the US economy 12 billion dollars in terms of subsidies and lost exports. I wonder if there’s any link between the Renewable Fuel bill and the fact that North America produces too much corn(relatively speaking, of course, because farmers won’t even feed their cattle the shit.)

Johnny, thanks for the switchgrass and nanosolar tips. I got me a couple acres of treed and farm land. I’ll look into it(as much as I believe that biofuels won’t work on a countrywide/global scale).

Post Modified: 03/28/08 00:48:01
R334622
5 months ago
GWHunta

Switchgrass/hardwood waste/soft wood waste/ green waste from scrublands- not from arable land-hey its better than corn!

Now that you add wood to the mix, I agree, it would be an improvement over corn to ethanol.

Better yet is the partial gasification of biomass for energy and the burial of the char in agriculturally utilized topsoil to improve both soil quality by increasing available nutrients and increasing water retention, while semi-permanently sequestering the carbon that would otherwise become CO2.

Peace,

R334945
5 months ago
ducky

burning corn is wrong. corn and tobacco are sacred crops of the americas. what we need is a few less people per acre.

R335520
4 months ago
Liam

Better conduction of energy, better storage, increases in battery life… plus Al Gore’s predicted cataclysms (whenever they finally arrive), will surely do the trick.

In the mean time, drive your neighbors insane and get one of these:

The initial prototype of the Aptera achieved 230 mpg, a number that is 195 mpg over the projected standard outlined in President Bush’s recent energy bill. As of now, the developers still have more time to work out the kinks and improve its efficiency — AC expects the Aptera to be ready for Californians in late 2008.

R335522
4 months ago
misanthropic

You looking for some type of soylant fuel, Ducky?

R335523
4 months ago
Liam

Crikey, that’s a grand idea! Soylant Fuel!

Maybe that’s why Al is ballooning up… he’s preparing to ‘give back’ to the rest of us?!

R335528
4 months ago
GWHunta

Comment on “Big Al’s” massive girth.

The Aptera rocks.

Good to see you round Liam.

Peace,

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