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R333334
2 months ago
mwm

This last week’s This is Hell is now available inthe Archices.

R333346
2 months ago
bacchus

Salvia: like marijuana, but unpleasant

R333353
2 months ago
Freeman

agreed bach
very unpleasant salvia is

R333354
2 months ago
mwm

bacchus/Freeman
Could either of you elaborate? Unpleasant, how?

R333355
2 months ago
ShiftShapers

Salvia: like marijuana, but unpleasant

yeah, no shit.

and what scares me about it, after overdosing on 25X, is that kids see it in headshops and think “hey, if this stuff is legal, and pot is illegal, and i can drive while smoking pot, i can sure as hell drive while smoking salvia, ‘cause it’s legal, therefor less potent than pot”

this, as anyone who’s smoke salvia knows, is a very dangerous assumption. my overdose, which was ONE HIT, sent me out of body and normal consciousness. had i been driving, it would have been an instant wreck. i was gone, only for about 8 to 10 seconds.

R333356
2 months ago
ShiftShapers

Unpleasant, how?

some people like it, and it varies from person to person, i think. i had smoked it before my overdose, and gotten buzzes and highs that i still found uncomfortable, but i might have been able to hold on behind the wheel and not loose it. that’s really my main concern because i know many people smoke pot while driving.

R333363
2 months ago
DeltronZero

“Unpleasant, how?”

Well I can only speak from my experience. A pure mind fuck.

Dose: Clearing massive 50x slavia bowl pack (a little under a gram), smoked through a bong is not recommended for those of us with weak minds.

Also I would like to state that I had no other substances for several day before and after , I believe all the negativity was saliva produced. I don’t know if other substances would have negative or positive affects on salvia…

Setting: a chill swimming hole down by a deserted river

Effect: Sheer terror, Paranoia, Panic, and general feelings of Doom.

Anything that I touched and pulled away from left me with the feelings of torn\peeling flesh at points of contact.

Vivid visual hallucinations.

Loss of pain perception(apparently I was running over broken beer bottles and sharp rocks)I cut my feet to shreds after I had laboriously removed my sandals and did not feel a thing.

Auditory befuddlement’s; strange low groaning sounds issuing from rocks etc.

Complete loss of time ( I was gone for about three hours) in reality it took about 15 minutes till I could perceive things that were familiar.

After effects: For the next three days I felt like absolute shitty shit

My sitters said after I exhaled I drooled profusely; fought my sandals, once I was free of them I started stomping off to the waters edge with no visible signs of pain. said some gibberish “durhabla”(over and over) then splashed in the shallows. They said I looked at the water; it started turning red due to my rock\glass stomping, turned towards them and stated “ this fuck shit” got in my kayak stared at my reflection till we left…

Tried it once more in at the same place a few weeks later only difference was that we brewed tea from the leaves, very chill compared to the 1st time, but with the underlying bad vibes and overall feelings of shitty shit.

But don’t take my word for it, try it and find out for your self what the diviners mint has in store for you…But I do not suggest that anyone smoke it strait…
On second thought you might as well freebase your shoestrings….

Post Modified: 03/17/08 18:58:25
R333368
2 months ago
aganunitsi

Salvia divinorum effects – an elaboration…

I received a free sample of salvia when I ordered ingredients for making ayahuasca. I’d never heard of it, so I did some simple internet research on it before trying. Even having an idea of what to expect, my first experience was most definitely “unpleasant”.

I can’t remember if the free sample was labeled “5x” or “10x”. I packed a bowl just as if I were smoking MJ. As described, the effects come on extremely quickly, but only last for about 5 minutes. Well, there is a mild sense of euphoria that lasts longer, if you can ignore the freakishness of the first few minutes.

For me, salvia was like an amped mixuture of shrooms and acid. Effects were primarily visual, but it also messed with my sense of balance. The best I can describe is that I felt like I was tearing through time, moment after moment. I literally had to rip my world apart to get to the next second. My wife said I looked like I was dancing like a crazy monkey, but in my world I was just trying to walk! Sitting in bed, or on the couch, is the way to start – don’t try standing up until the first bit is over. On subsequent trials, proceeding through the first bit in a calm environment, with eyes closed, it was not unpleasant at all.

Like MJ? No fucking way. If this drug is legalized, and people start taking it without supervision (especially kids), expect some horror stories similar to the LSD stories of the 70’s – people jumping out of windows and shit. This is a powerful drug that requires either a mature individual, or mature supervision.

Post Modified: 03/17/08 19:17:35
R333370
2 months ago
silverback

testing

R333448
2 months ago
Disenchanted

““hey, if this stuff is legal, and pot is illegal, and i can drive while smoking pot, i can sure as hell drive while smoking salvia, ‘cause it’s legal, therefor less potent than pot”” – Anyone who uses this kind of line of logic shouldn’t be granted a licence. Alchol is legal, does that make it ok to drink and drive?

R333452
2 months ago
voynich

“This is a powerful drug that requires either a mature individual, or mature supervision.”

Thta’s right. But still, I don’t thnk it should be illegalized. I tried it twice so far and found the out of body experience to be quite plesant. Sure, it can be scary, if you don’t know what to expect. But then again if someone dosen’t inform themselve about what they are smokeing, it is, quite frankly, their own damn fault. Instead of illegalizing it an age restriction woud the more sensible thing to to, IMHO.

PS: Sorry for any grammar/spelling mistakes, English is not my native language.

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