Shooting War Getting A Grip Wolves In Sheep's Clothing

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League of Young Voters Primary
Forum : International
R320135
5 months ago
microdot

About the spending habits of Chavistas. The problem with the so-called Fancy Clothes and Fancy Cars occurs when they’re assembled for 12 cents an hour or even 22 cents an hour — which is what I think the Hondos (Hondurans) get for assembling cars. NAFTA gave the original 22/hr job to Mexicans for 66 cents an hour but I think CAFTA has since moved the workload on.

Plus the Hummers are hands down symbols of Fascism. A total di kh ad car squared.

I personally don’t feel that socialism needs to dispense with “luxuries” like a good looking fashion item. What we want to dispense with is genocide and slavery. Every chance we get to make that a little clearer is a chance we should grab with gusto. Por favor.

Post Modified: 12/26/07 10:58:48
R320138
5 months ago
Dilated_Rebel

Micro, as always words of wisdom.

It just looks bad for them bourgiouse.

R320142
5 months ago
microdot

If the shoe was handmade in Germany by a master craftsman who got a descent day’s wages in a healthy work environment and you had to pay 1,000 USD for that shoe – that’s better than paying 200 USD for a shoe that was assembled in an Indonesian Labor camp.

You shouldn’t have to pay that much though, for a good shoe, handmade by a master craftsman in Germany or Spain — or anywhere else, for that matter. The price points aren’t the hold up — it’s the profit margins carinos. Really. I promise you.

R320143
5 months ago
microdot

In the Socialist Worker’s Paradise, we want to be proud of what we make. And we want people to get pleasure from the fruits of our labor. And we want to get up every morning knowing that a brilliant idea — for making what we make better than ever — might make our day brighter and more exciting.

That’s the Worker’s Paradise, carinos, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

Post Modified: 12/26/07 11:26:56
R320144
5 months ago
microdot

Needless to say, if you go through a lot of trouble to acquire an item that wasn’t made in a slave labor camp, you don’t want it to look like it might have been made in a slave labor camp.

R320145
5 months ago
Dilated_Rebel

“better than paying 200 USD for a shoe that was assembled in an Indonesian Labor camp”

Word. but paying that high a price would lead to most of the public incapable of attaining them. which is worse. you the middle ground, where the shoe can be manufactured at good paying conditions, and still be under 75$? sure the companies would have to take a profit-cut and this they would fight guns and ammuntion, but the fucking crazy thing is they’d still be making profit!!!

I laugh at some of my friends who buy them “Jordans” or “Timberlands” boots or even those who buy their ostrich/gator boots and belts. What exactly are they buying? Quality items? Made in China?

Their buying status symbols, something that tells them apart from the normal eveyday proletarian. And in Venevuela example, it’s not that bad yet. You know like buying a Rolex, while people cant afford to buy bread. I have a problem with the whole marie antoinnette position. we all know how that ended.

R320146
5 months ago
microdot

The Revolution needs a Fashion System to guide people into the new consciousness. If you are out there and you aren’t sure what you wanna do with your life, think about it. This ain’t no old fashioned endeavor.

R320147
5 months ago
Dilated_Rebel

In the Socialist Worker’s Paradise, we want to be proud of what we make. And we want people to get pleasure from the fruits of our labor. And we want to get up every morning knowing that a brilliant idea — for making what we make better than ever — might make our day brighter and more exciting.

amen.

R320148
5 months ago
Dilated_Rebel

The Revolution needs a Fashion System

Ive though of this, you know good clothes made by people like you. Kind of a new-wave hippy thing. the problem being i have problems with hippies. they’re a bit too moderate nowadays.

R320150
5 months ago
microdot

The let them eat cake position? You’re calling my position a let them eat cake position?

I’m saying the problem is the slave labor, not the price you pay. In Latin America there is good potential for making a good cost effective shoe in an industrial landscape that isn’t abusive, and get an affordable shoe for das tots. We’re not going to get there if we strap ourselves down with some idea that the shoes have to be affordable for people making 10 cents an hour or less.

R320149
5 months ago
microdot

I like the idea that, in the interim, people who can pay 100 bucks for a shoe could subsidize the cost of an underpaid worker’s shoe.

Post Modified: 12/26/07 11:41:50
R320152
5 months ago
microdot

And would subsidize that shoe. Willingly. With pleasure.

R320153
5 months ago
microdot

I’m pretty sure it could be a mission critical part of the ad campaign.

R320154
5 months ago
microdot

Even Tony Blair would want to be seen in a pair. WTH.

R320155
5 months ago
microdot

Not sure who “people like you” are. I sort of feel like the new fashion system should have a global flavor. I’d like to see Iran, for instance, infuse the global fashion system with traditionally Persian designs. And new spins on it. Same goes for traditional Incan design.

It’s too bad that the Chinese are making boring design free crap to feed genocidal profit margins — they have also an incredible indigenous design culture — as do the Japanese and the Koreans and the Vietnamese etc etc etc . . .

R320156
5 months ago
microdot

God forbid that I should forget the Mayans. Don’t forget : we’re not forgetting. All you Aztecs, Toltecs and Mixtecs etc out there. Don’t forget. Everybody should be planning to get on board.

Post Modified: 12/26/07 11:59:11
R320161
5 months ago
EGisJUICE

President Bush deflected questions on Thursday about the destruction of C.I.A. interrogation tapes, saying that he will withhold comment until investigations into the affair are complete.

Right. Just like he made sure that those in his administration who were responsible for leaking Valerie Plame’s name/info were punished after a full investigation.

Maybe even better he could order it investigated like they investigated who was responsible for producing the false documents about Bush’s national guard service, and giving them to CBS. False documents which slandered the President during his re-election campaign.

I guess promising investigations on things or forgetting to order investigations into things isn’t really necessary when you already know the nuances and few actual facts there are regarding the stories you make up to bullshit as many people as you can….

R320166
5 months ago
microdot

or when you are a . . . .

DICK tater

R320168
5 months ago
Dilated_Rebel

The let them eat cake position? You’re calling my position a let them eat cake position?

No I wasnt. I was saying that luxuries inevtiably lead to the marie antoinnette syndrome. would never riducule you micro, were cool like that.

Don’t forget. Everybody should be planning to get on board

Hey if you ever go to certain parts of certain countries, Personally Ive only seen it in southern mexico and guatemala, the indignenous people there sell beautifully colored pants and xuipils hats, all kinds of blankets, its really expensive tho. Making one mans pant could take one person sewing all day, about 2 months to complete. they have their own way of sewing too, ill get some pics next time i see it.

R320184
5 months ago
microdot

we’ll be introducing production efficiencies and economies of scale . . .

:-)

I’ll go ahead and look forward to the pics. It’s virtually imPOSsible to get a decent pair of pants around here (I’ve been buying the same pair for about 10 years now. Just one, always the same one, over and over again, day after day — we got nada competition around here.)

Post Modified: 12/26/07 16:05:55
R320190
5 months ago
microdot

Naomi Wolf on What Is Probably in the Missing Torture Tapes

by Naomi Wolf

In short? “The Directives to Torture come from the Top”

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