Shooting War Getting A Grip Wolves In Sheep's Clothing

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Forum : Iraq
R272554
2 years ago
hands

“An underground railroad and network of safe houses is waiting to welcome you into the global anti-capitalist resistance. Your skills are needed to help stop this death machine. Stay safe and Harass the Brass!”

where is this underground railroad? I would like to find out how I can live there, asap.

R272560
2 years ago
BetterRed

How much longer will the American people, and the people of the world, tolerate this human tragedy? How much longer will we placate our consciences with ineffective and State-sanctioned dissent before we realize our true power, as workers, to shut this war machine down? How many more people will have to die?

Yes, you get to think it will be a cold day in 50 years time, before the american people realise their power as workers.

R272573
2 years ago
ShiftShapers
R272599
2 years ago
Beagle17

I emailed that (the ICH video) to something like 50 people, nearly all genuine real-life friends of mine. I didn’t get a single reply regarding it. This is normal. People really don’t like having their comfort zone invaded.

I guess it’s silly to ask, but I assume plenty of people have made reserve copies of that video and posted them around, right? There should be an organized operation by a group of people to push it out as far and wide as possible using YouTube and all the rest of the popular services (in all major countries too). It’s a lot more compelling than that friendly fire killing a Brit footage that all the big networks were showing repeatedly a couple weeks ago.

I agree with the principle that people should be shown the true meaning of war through pictures and video in order to try and counter the horrible effects of blind flag-waving, symbolism-propaganda-driven, nationalist righteousness that most everybody seems to think is some innate characteristic of normal humans.

So let’s nominate Michael Phelps to go serve in Iraq. Bring back the draft. This “war” may end, but the same stinking gamers behind the scenes will find a sadistic way to segue into the next one.

The psychology is bizarre. I don’t even watch many political anti-war videos. I’d rather do other things. But I saw the Abu-Ghraib videos and Jarheads, and that was enough for me. The shoot-em-up footage in the ICH video is exactly what I imagine is the normal reality. It doesn’t surprise me. Can some people actually watch that and still think “supporting their country and their troops” is the most important thing. It’s weird how the anti-war movement needs to stoop to a pretty low position just to get majority support. “Support the troops by bringing them home.” Why not, “Bring them home, confiscate their videos and investigate them all for Geneva Convention violations?”

R273469
2 years ago
mkddi

this is terrifying… and sadly has been going on for a while, I think.

I remember, a couple of years after the war had begun, reading an article about “coalition soldiers” shooting at participants in a wedding in Afghanistan… it makes me sick to type this… why is this allowed to continue? how can anyone mindlessly chant “support our troops”? I feel like I’m surrounded by them. ask one of the supporters to read about this and they will either react defensively (“Oh, I can’t read that, it’s too disturbing” as though it didn’t disturb us to read it) or incredulously, as though it is the minority of soldiers who are acting this way, as though these are minor “accidents,” and “friendly fires.”

but look at the military’s method of advertising itself these days; in the States, slogans like “accelerate your life,” and free shoot em up video games on download.com are the norm (I am serious, I saw this a couple of weeks ago, I will post the link when I find it).

I once heard an army recruit say that the reason he was joining was to test out the new, all to cool weapons; to get a chance to use them. it’s enough to make you want to move to the moon. the more public we can make the ugliness of this war, the better; and the more people that can understand what is truly going on and why it must stop, the closer we will be to ending this stupid epidemic of violence and sheer stupidity…

and I think I will go vomit now…

R274473
2 years ago
ShiftShapers

who am i to witness?

rifles speak of innocence
while red hot guilt
travels so fast
it cannot be seen

only felt

metal coffins on wheels collide
a body convulses
as metal judgment
passes silently
through his warm body

the only sounds
come from the mouths of weapons
& the barrels of soldiers throats
unleashing conversations of death

bazooka speaks last
with harsh words
& eternal, red silence

me?
i wasn’t there
who am i
to witness?

through the cold
impersonal glow
of my computer screen

safe
distant
removed

let the words of the weapons
& the automatic sounds of men
turned into machines
speak for themselves

Nathan Coe, 4/11/07
Post Modified: 04/11/07 14:16:59
R276061
1 year ago
ShiftShapers
R303889
1 year ago
ShiftShapers
R303927
1 year ago
hitlabeshi

Nobody believes your lies except for the far left who generally don’t really care whether they are true or not anyways. A far leftist is not a critical thinker. A far leftist is a political activist with an extreme ideology.

We know that in your dingy dong world, US soldiers kill babies by the millions and terrorists don’t exist, let alone commit depraved acts of violence. We have heard it all before.

There is only one issue in Iraq and you are not in the debate. The critical question is : Is it worth our effort to liberate people from evil environments, if so, to what cost and in Iraq what should the exit strategy be?

This US soldiers killing babies is just farcical silliness that nobody in the debate takes seriously.

R340485
4 months ago
ShiftShapers

apparently the video has been removed (?????)

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