R187011
3 years ago

Teh drugs won.

R187033
3 years ago

Man its never been about the drugs, its been about power.
Anylaw that is not enforced equally is mearly a batton used to beat down civil rights of the people.

R187038
3 years ago

Prohibition cannot be enforced for the simple reason that the majority of American people do not want it enforced and are resisting its enforcement. That being so, the orderly thing to do under our form of government is to abolish a law which cannot be enforced ... – New York Mayor Fiorello La Guardia, 1944

R187045
3 years ago

Doesn’t surprise me, when he said that, the U.S. government was letting gangsters import huge amounts of heroin through the New York port and were getting away with it b/c they were also protecting from Nazis.

R187058
3 years ago

I could be crazy, but I belive that a deciding factor in invading that afghan land was because the taliban was not allowing enough Opium across the border. Since the Taliban lost power, Afghan opium is like 80% (or more) of the world supply/market in less than a year. Coincidence I think not.

R187065
3 years ago

sens is a pussy, “ idont like driving and smoking, its unsafe, my 3rd grade teacher told me so.” lol pussy cumhead

R187066
3 years ago

yeah, cannon, but opium creation, as the article pointed out, is decreasing in the “golden triangle,” and opium production in Afghanistan has varied widely over the past few years.

R187074
3 years ago

eradicating the current opium market wouldn’t be that difficult if the US used effective policies.

Like that’ll ever happen.

R187137
3 years ago

OOOOOh nooooooooooooooo.
They made another law against Ganga.

I was only smoking, eating and drinking pot for the past 16 years because the laws which made it illegal were not scarey enough.
Now i will stop.

heh.

Never dun smack thou, did coke once and thought it was shit.

R187157
3 years ago

Ganga? Is that like Icy Hot Stuntaz?

Good looking Senss!

R187321
3 years ago

thax, pork.

R187513
3 years ago

I can’t believe that no one in the administration, for the past what, 20 years, understands that drug control comes from fighting demand, not supply.

The billions spent in Colombia haven’t done ANYTHING to curb the supply.

That money would have been better spent treating those with drug problems, but I suppose that means drug use could no longer be viewed as a crime, but as a social issue…something American governments have not wanted to accept.

Heroin users will use heroin if it’s illegal or not. Pot users will smoke pot if it’s illegal or not. If you give them treatment their desire to use the drugs in the first place may dwindle and the this “War on Drugs” will start being successful.

R187515
3 years ago

Best way to stabilize Afghanistan: Pull the soldiers out and have GlaxonKlineSmith and Pfizer buy the poppy fields. Why not let the pharmaceutical companies get a slice of the pie while bringing economic stability to the nation?

R187823
3 years ago

that’s a brilliant idea.

and they can make alliances with teh warlords and then have their own private armies.

What medical corporation hasn’t wanted to be able to say, STFU natives in Africa about our AIDS drug prices, we can kick your ass with our private drug-funded army!

Bitches.

R187837
3 years ago

I think most of you are totally missing the point of “War on Drugs”, its not about curbing the use of illegal drugs, especially as large amounts of them are delivered to your door by the very agencies that are charged with eradicating them.

If the “War on Drugs” has miserably failed to stem the flow and use of illegal drugs but is continued to be pushed by the ruling class with no consideration of the expense it incurs then you should be focusing on just what it has archived with absolute stunning success.

The militarisation and expansion of police forces and powers.

Of course the next question should be “Why do they want a militarisation and expansion of police forces and powers”. If its not about controlling illegal drugs the what is it about controlling.

In fact the “War on Terror” is simply an extension and upgrading of the “War on Drugs” with the same end result.

R187845
3 years ago

especially as large amounts of them are delivered to your door by the very agencies that are charged with eradicating them

got any proof of that beyond teh Iran Contra, and the previous government history of foreign drug lord support?

(The big coke bust of the private jet in Mexico a little while back’s details are still be smoothed out, so beyond that one)

R187855
3 years ago

Why dont you check out the CIA support for the nationalist Chinese forces that fled into Thailand and Burma, which became the Golden Triangle, before after and during the Vietnam war. The CIA support for the Afghan drug lords. Or just get a hold of Gary Webbs “Dark Alliance”. Or if all else fails just pull your head out of your arse.

R187860
3 years ago

got any proof of that beyond teh Iran Contra, and the previous government history of foreign drug lord support?

Ummm… are you asking for proof, besides the proof that has already been proven?

Or are you shooting for irony? You do irony, so i’ve gotta discount that first before we can move on…

R187864
3 years ago

Why dont you check out the CIA support for the nationalist Chinese forces that fled into Thailand and Burma, which became the Golden Triangle, before after and during the Vietnam war. The CIA support for the Afghan drug lords. Or just get a hold of Gary Webbs “Dark Alliance”. Or if all else fails just pull your head out of your arse.

previous government history of foreign drug lord support

Apparently you don’t know that that is previous policy.

dumbshit.

None of that proves anything about current policy.

Do you know what the difference between the words previous and current is? Because from your posts it doesn’t look like it.

I’ve read Dark Alliance, Peter Dale Scott, and Whiteout, which is Cockburn’s authoritative history of cold war government support of drug networks.

So try me.

R187865
3 years ago

Asks self: What the hell did I even bother to ask Wombat for evidence? Of course he doesn’t have any. Previous blabber from him should have shown you, sens.

R187873
3 years ago

“Asks self: What the hell did I even bother to ask Wombat for evidence? Of course he doesn’t have any. Previous blabber from him should have shown you, sens.”

Well just what are you looking for Sens. Youve read Dark Alliance and Whiteout. You know about the Golden Triangle, Afghanistan and the Contras. So what, you dont believe any of it and you want something more, looking for something more recent. Or are you just talking shit cause thats all you know how to do.

BTW: Stop talking to yourself it makes you look even more stupid than your usual posts.

R187876
3 years ago

“None of that proves anything about current policy.”

Oooohhh right I see. PREVIOUS behaviour doesnt mean anything right. I mean the CIA and the Gov may have been involved in drug trafficking in the past but they have changed their evil ways and shunned the easy money and infulence of illegal drugs. CURRENTLY they are squeaky clean and drug free cause they “Just said NO”.

Golly geee willakers Sens how far back does the squeaky clean image go, where do you want the drug dealing to start from. Give me a time frame and Ill see what I can do for you.

R187878
3 years ago

CIA= Crack explosion of the 1980’s. How do you think they pay for all those low level, high intesity conflicts???

R187880
3 years ago

“CIA= Crack explosion of the 1980’s”

No no no CF. Apparently thats PREVIOUS and not CURRENT policy so in Sens’s little mind it never really happend. Im afraid youll have to come up with something more recent than that. Have you seen any CIA guys dealing drugs down your street today.

R187881
3 years ago

Actually that white van has been down on the corner a block from my house, again

R187882
3 years ago

Have you seen any CIA guys dealing drugs down your street today.

Wombat, if you don’t see CIA agents on every street… well… you just aren’t quite gorilla enuf….

R187883
3 years ago

“Actually that white van has been down on the corner a block from my house, again”

Did the guy drivin it have on a black siut, white shirt, black tie and wrap around Ray Banns. If you can flash him a Homeland Security pass youll get 10% an ounce, a free Uzi and an opportunity to make a “I love Al-queada” video.

R187885
3 years ago

Also if you dont see them, that means they ARE there dealing rocks on the street. They are the CIA after all, very very very veyryryryry sneaky little buggers….

R187887
3 years ago

“Wombat, if you don’t see CIA agents on every street”

Oohh I see em on every street but not all of em are dealing drugs. Some of em are taking pics of tall buildings, some are plantin car bombs, others are beaten up on old ladies and the rest are just followin me around.

R187888
3 years ago

“Did the guy drivin it have on a black siut, white shirt, black tie and wrap around Ray Banns. If you can flash him a Homeland Security pass youll get 10% an ounce, a free Uzi and an opportunity to make a “I love Al-queada” video.”

Not exactly he did have a RFID scanner and a barcode tattooed to his left hand…

R187897
3 years ago

“Not exactly he did have a RFID scanner and a barcode tattooed to his left hand…”

If the bar code is on his left hand hes DIA not CIA, if its on his right hand hes NSA, if its on his forehead hes CIA. Either that or he is from Express Post.

R187901
3 years ago

Pray to god it’s not Express post… that’s who the aliens use…

R187904
3 years ago

I’m sorry, left temple; the one on the hand was for show did I mention that he had no hair and his eyes were black and bulging???

R187963
3 years ago

haha, wombat couldn’t produce evidence. dumbshit.

R187966
3 years ago

“haha, wombat couldn’t produce evidence. dumbshit.”

Produce evidence of what you fucking retard.

I gave you evidence and you cried “NOT CURRENT” so how current do you want it.

Christ but you are a moron and I dont know why I even bother throwing a rational thought in your direction.

R188118
3 years ago

you’re hysterically funny.

so how current do you want it

nah nah Wombat can’t read my first post on that subject and doesn’t know what current means to boot.

definition of leftist troll shit-for-brains.

R188467
3 years ago

c’mon, someone disprove me

R188474
3 years ago

Or if all else fails just pull your head out of your arse.

I’m totally stealing that line.

R188477
3 years ago

Zen: Take it, use it ,enjoy it.

While Sens still has his head firmly implanted into his rectum other enquiring readers may find this article enjoyable and informative

A little background may help though.

We all know that when the Nationalist Chinese Army of Chiang Kai-shek was chased out of China by the Peoples Army of Mao Zedong they fled to the (then Chinese) island of Taiwan and formed their own country.

What is less known is that the remnants of the Nationalist Chinese Northern Army cut off from their southern brethren fled across the border into Thailand and Burma (later to become the notorious Golden Triangle) where the US government and the CIA decided that they would be an invaluable tool in the clandestine war against Chinese (and later Vietnamese) Communism. But how would they fund and arm them??

R188560
3 years ago

Wombat, when asked for current evidence of the U.S. government’s involvement in the drug trade, posts an article from 1989.

Wombat, here’s a dictionary for you to look up what current means.

I don’t even need to call you a dipshit, your responses speak for themselves.

BTW – White Out by Alex Cockburn has a more concise version of the creation of the Golden Triangle than Womb’s article.

R188633
3 years ago

some good info here

R188635
3 years ago

Bush says 9/11 drives US policy

R188637
3 years ago

“some good info here“

R188639
3 years ago

Bush says 9/11 drives US policy

R189925
3 years ago

so, this is amazing.

No one here has any evidence that the government is currently involved in the drug trade?

(The big coke bust of the private jet in Mexico a little while back’s details are still be smoothed out, so beyond that one)

R189926
3 years ago

so, this is amazing.

No one here has any evidence that the government is currently involved in the drug trade?

(The big coke bust of the private jet in Mexico a little while back’s details are still be smoothed out, so beyond that one)

R190202
3 years ago

“Wombat, when asked for current evidence of the U.S. government’s involvement in the drug trade, posts an article from 1989.”

If I could list the top ten thousand things I give a shit about “What You Want” wouldnt even begin to appear.

“so, this is amazing.
No one here has any evidence that the government is currently involved in the drug trade”

Yep amazing that the CIA hasnt released a “What we earned from the Drug Trade” white paper in the past few years. Apparently the “Current” regime is squeaky clean on drugs. I heard that GW did a deal with Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny. If he keeps the US out of the drug trade the Tooth Fairy will come through his window every night and give him a non sexual blow job.

“BTW – White Out by Alex Cockburn has a more concise version of the creation of the Golden Triangle than Womb’s article.”

But that one you can read online, or maybe you can give us a free online link to Whiteout (its one word fucknuckle), well actually its “Whiteout: The CIA, Drugs and the Press”.

R190215
3 years ago

so you still can’t find any evidence.

If I could list the top ten thousand things I give a shit about “What You Want” wouldnt even begin to appear

Of course it would. You care so much you keep posting on this thread. Unfortunately, you can’t give the evidence you claim to have, so I think you are a funny little toolbag.