word up on ANSWER, those people tend towards the authoritarian…

This makes me slightly ashamed that as Canadians (I/We) haven’t done more to improve the democratic system that is slowly choking our people, our economy and our planet.

Wow. Now I know what to call myself – A Bolivarian! Thanks for a great article.

Funny, that democratic system they say is their own invention looks more like a carbon copy of the democracy in Pericles Athens more than two thousands years ago.

Good Heavens HyperT, you are so busted – in 5th century bce Athens they had a few rich men that sat around talking, admittedly about some still interesting stuff, and then they had a lot of slaves, of which the women were a subset.

yeah, Greek city-state “democracies” such as that of Athens was open only to free adult men, which amounted to less than 10% of the total populations.

i am looking forward to alexander’s comments, as he has said that many of these observations match his own

word up on ANSWER, those people tend towards the authoritarian…

be sure to see this for an explanation.

Very interesting article. Chavez and the Venezuelan people are front runners in the fight against exploitative capitalism. It’s so nice to for once see someone talk of (and make real) true changes towards greater democracy instead of the newspeak US spreading of “democracy”. I sure hope they can keep fighting for a long time without falling into the trap of authoritarianism or the threat of US intervention.

A global popular political revolution fueled by the latest in cybernetic quantum bookkeeping has a far better chance of ending capitalism than this Bolivarian familism, which will only end up producing cannon-fodder; – a la Paraguay.

cybernetic quantum bookkeeping – like what we’ve had since we came off the gold standard and deficits “don’t matter” anymore? Where the speculation on what the FUTURE price of something MIGHT be can plummet an entire economy into destitution? pfffffffft….

Computers do numbers. Really really well. But. The economic norm of quantitative expansion (growth) has GOT to go. It’s first, middle and last name is global warming and total war. FTS. Neoliberalism is toast. Or we are.

Cybernetic quantum bookkeeping does not imply growth and is sharply contrasted with the secrecy of the price system. Its non-boolean networks of reasoning and pure maths can handle a revolution, whereas little circles, drawn on a family’s wall, will only fade into violence and vengeance.

I have an ebook on Quantum Bookkeeping and New Economy. Google for “Clinton Cheap Hotel Spy Scandal

Quantum Bookkeeping and New Economy

I don’t suppose you could summarize the thesis in a sentence or two? I’d like to think about this a little more. Lots even. Is the thesis on the bandwagon with The Limits to Growth?

Does everyone know that the apocryphal Uncle Sam was a butcher? Sam Wilson of Upstate New York. During the war of 1812 – a war of expansion against the British Empire as it was formed, at the time, in Canada. Thomas Jefferson & Co thought it would just be a question of marching up there and everyone would welcome their “liberators” with open arms.

Ten years ago I saw a huge diagram called the millenium project. A notional economy, it had nasty red lines showing all the capital flows. I instinctively knew the structure could stand on its own without those tensors. Many other feedback loops could replace the shell and pea game.

From my perspective, in grid form, what was left was auto-summarized thus, “Society’s unjust employer/advertiser laws seek to stigmatize without qualification environmental anti-consumer principles by perpetuating sadistic welfare-PR and dumbing-down workers into false economies, for the sake of friends and family. Until Uploaders are freed from exploitation there is no hope for mankind.”

Excuse the pun-ctuation, but where are u-bi-quit-y? Care to have a prototype Cybernetic Quantum Bookkeeping and New Economy, to go with that revolution? I’ll even seed it with the pretext of analogizing the slant drillers of Trinidad, as the latter-day Kuwaitis of Venezuela. Bad example? How about inviting Hugo to join the “Travels of Jim” at Point Fortin, like the German Chancellor was invited to Austria by Kurt von Schuschnigg? Another bad example? How about being just discovered, like probably was Stafford Beer; – instigator of the cybernetic government of CIA assassinated Chilean President, Salvador Allende.

It was one old French river fort, where I camped as a boy-scout, that the British held against the Americans. That was the first and last hard nut prize in the war of 1812. Have some sympathy for the devil, Uncle Sam, because all else was profane.

I am a pilot-wave. What’s my name? Ah, but what’s puzzlin’ you is just the nature of my game.

My claim to fame was to hereby name mind-uploading the purpose of the universe. My Ingrid game is a lifesaver killer app, if there can be such a thing. IngridRex (revolutionary country version) superpositions your virtuallity and can fling off subsections into the most amazing screensavers you’ve ever seen. You can watch these Heinsenberg cuts of your Quantum Bookkeeping (iPod?) reach into tensors in the materializer. These movements are summarized to the eye and one-way encrypted to the user’s backup only. To implement from the prototype to iPod requires 50 open source VB6/VB.Net programmers full-time for a year.