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Headlines : Human RightsChina Pours Troops Into Tibet
China said rioters killed 13 innocent civilians in Lhasa while denying that it used deadly force to end the protests. Exiled Tibetan leaders have said about 100 people were believed to have been killed in the Chinese crackdown.
Republished from AFP
Thousands of soldiers were seen in Lhasa on Thursday amid reports of a huge military build-up, as the Dalai Lama expressed fears China’s crackdown on Tibetan protesters had caused many casualties.
Long military convoys were on the move in Tibet while troops also poured into nearby provinces, after a week of violent unrest against China’s rule of the Himalayan region, witnesses, activist groups and media reports said.
“We saw a big convoy of military vehicles with troops in the back,” German journalist Georg Blume said from the Tibetan capital Lhasa early Thursday.
“One convoy was about two kilometres (1.2 miles) long and contained about 200 trucks. Each had 30 soldiers on board so that’s about 6,000 military personnel in one convoy.”
Blume, who works for the German newspaper Die Zeit, and another witness in Lhasa said they had seen security forces going from one house to the next.
“There are lots of security forces on the streets. We can see Chinese security going door-to-door. It’s very tense,” an independent source in the city, who did want to be named for fear of retaliation, told AFP by phone.
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The 1980 and 1984 Olympics were boycotted for lesser evils. Let’s call for a boycott!
2008 Beijing Olympics is a reenactment of Berlin’s 1936 nazi ass kissing Olympics.
Enter Tibet? Enter Lhasa maybe… China keeps over 300,000 troops in tibet
Making them choke on their pride and loose face is stronger than entering Tibet. Face is everything to them, more important than life even.
This is not good. Really really not good.
johnny…where did you get that info about chinese troop numbers… i’ve seen no reference to that in the plethora of media i’ve been encountering about Tibet lately…can you source that?
agreed…this is really really not good....and since when are Tibetans known for doing each other in (the official excuse for the deaths)?
Newfangled “Google” search engine to the rescue
300000 troops
China Continues Crack Down on Tibet Protests: China has acknowledged for the first time that anti-government protests in Tibet over the past few days have spread to other provinces. The protests erupted last week when Buddhist monks took to the streets of Lhasa to mark the anniversary of the 1959 uprising against Chinese rule. Human rights groups say dozens of people have been killed and hundreds arrested. We speak with Lhakpa Kyizom, a Tibetan activist in Dharamsala, India, and Robert Thurman, president of Tibet House US.
“All Foreigners, please leave the country. There are no tanks and soldiers killing people, please move (before we have to arrest you for filming us violating all human rights)”
I can’t believe every other nation keeps it’s mouth shut in front of chinese government officials!
industrial civilization is so fucking disgusting.
bunch of softies over fascist monks (dilly dally not necessarily included all the way on that on all issues all the time), while different ones of you would happily note important divisions within Iran or Israel’s religious states, and allow riots to be called riots in Chechnya, Athens, the Balkans over the years or Denver later this summer. I’m not saying that any government is a really good government, but Tibet is as much a state of China as Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory or Hawaii and the Dakotas are U.S. states. Any other version means war and the whiners here are resonating goads to war. There’s a lot unfair in life, but nothing quite as unfair as war.
Fascist monks? Are you calling the Dalai Lama a fascist?
. . . let me think about that some more . . .
GlobalResearch has been kind enough to dig out a headline from last August to meet the demands of today’s Information Environment :
Tibet, China, and the National Endowment for Democracy
I’d agree that the Chinese are handling this poorly and are, in effect, walking into the arms of the NED Agenda — perhaps even with the help of some elegantly placed Trojans.
It doesn’t matter where Supremacism lurks, it’s always reactionary.
See also Parenti’s
Friendly Feudalism — The Tibet Myth
There are some great Buddhist monks that minister to people’s spiritual needs and teach meditation. I’ve run into more though that are tremendously pushy, aggressive, insistent, superior everywhere I’ve been in China over the past three years. Then, there is the history of the monks when they have governed Tibet, and the majority of reports are of a heavy hand, demanding, strict, inflexible, in charge.
In addition, for me, it’s like where is Buddha? For me, it’s like the teachings of Buddha is great, like the teachings of Jesus is great to me. I do not like more than half of the Christian church’s trip whether of the Catholics or the Protestants or other subsets, and I don’t like a lot of the Buddhist church, Dali Lama or otherwise.
Sit me down with a sincere, wise, giving priest, pastor or monk and I’m like you are a great connection to the spiritual world man.
The CIA’s secret war in Tibet
That was worth the read.
Thanks microdot.
Peace,
The peculiar thing that is emerging, for me, as we uncover the mapping of Neofeudal interventions, is the extent to which the well-meaning and naive have been co-opted by The Agenda for Supremacist Hegemony.
I’ve woken up with blood on my hands on more than one occassion.
The Chinese have been in Tibet since 1950 and the armed resistance to this occupation ended over 30 years ago.
Why is it we’re at odds against governments based on religious ideology around the world, but are willing to support the government in exile of the Dalai Lama?
Is the average citizen of Tibet worse off under the Chinese “occupation” than he would be if the monks were running the former country?
Free Tibet sounds like all the rage these days, but what would this hypothetical “freedom” entail?
Sounds a lot like supporting the return of control of Tibet back to their version of the “mullahs.”
How would that advance the cause of “freedom?”
Are we really being pro-Tibet or simply anti-China as we’ve demonstrated by our CIA involvement in the past.
Worth noting that the support for armed resistance by the Tibetan insurgency (terrorism if you’re Chinese) continued through the mid-1970’s and was provided by none other than the Taiwanese government.
Hard to argue their Chinese heritage (Taiwanese) or motivations for remaining independent of the “mainland.”
Sometimes no Peace
Junta, “we” are not really at odds with governments because of their religious ideology. But “we” can’t just say“we” want to rob them blind, killing them in the process if need be, because “we” are greedy mofos.
Can we?
You just did.
I’m forced to agree.
That’s a “we.”
Peace,
I was just kidding myself, those are my tax dollars at work. sh*t sh*t sh*t.
I really thought we had a Constitution there for a while.
We do. It’s a museum…....
Piece.
Tibet is also officially history.
A quick search for Tibet on the The CIA World Factbook Tibet to be part and parcel of China.
Sometimes no Piece
Tibet is also officially history.
A quick search for Tibet on the The CIA World Factbook Tibet to be part and parcel of China.
Sometimes no Piece
U.S. drops China from list of 10 worst rights violators
agree
The thing to remember about the a U.S. list of human rights violators is that the people who decide who should be on that list think that they themselves are the only real human beings in the equation.
Cuba FFS. LOL.
I’m actually still reading the posts I linked earlier. But here’s a doozy from the Parenti piece — you wouldn’t want to miss this :
OPEN QUOTE
The first Dalai Lama was installed by a Chinese army
In the thirteenth century, Emperor Kublai Khan created the first Grand Lama, who was to preside over all the other lamas as might a pope over his bishops. Several centuries later, the Emperor of China sent an army into Tibet to support the Grand Lama, an ambitious 25-year-old man, who then gave himself the title of Dalai (Ocean) Lama, ruler of all Tibet.
When the current 14th Dalai Lama was first installed in Lhasa, it was with an armed escort of Chinese troops and an attending Chinese minister, in accordance with centuries-old tradition.
Oh but wait. There’s more (I clipped too soon) OPEN QUOTE
[The first Dalai Lama’s] two previous lama “incarnations” were then retroactively recognized as his predecessors, thereby transforming the 1st Dalai Lama into the 3rd Dalai Lama. This 1st (or 3rd) Dalai Lama seized monasteries that did not belong to his sect, and is believed to have destroyed Buddhist writings that conflicted with his claim to divinity. The Dalai Lama who succeeded him pursued a sybaritic life, enjoying many mistresses, partying with friends, and acting in other ways deemed unfitting for an incarnate deity. For these transgressions he was murdered by his priests. Within 170 years, despite their recognized divine status, five Dalai Lamas were killed by their high priests or other courtiers.
OK sorry, there’s more . . . did you guys read the Parenti piece? OMFG.
Until 1959, when the Dalai Lama last presided over Tibet, most of the arable land was still organized into manorial estates worked by serfs.
[The current Dalai Lama’s] monastery was one of the biggest landowners in the WORLD, with its 185 manors, 25,000 serfs, 300 great pastures, and 16,000 herdsmen.
I guess that’s why the CIA had to pay him US $180,000 / yr — so he could approximate the manor to which he’d been born.
OMG
(sorry, LOL, but I am SERious) OPEN QUOTE
Young Tibetan boys were regularly taken from their peasant families and brought into the monasteries to be trained as monks. Once there, they were bonded for life. Tash́-Tsering, a monk, reports that it was common for peasant children to be sexually mistreated in the monasteries. He himself was a victim of repeated rape, beginning at age nine.
The monastic estates also conscripted children for lifelong servitude as domestics, dance performers, and soldiers.
The Chinese are starting to look quite a bit more like liberators.
OQ{
Whatever wrongs and new oppressions introduced by the Chinese after 1959, they did
1. abolish slavery and the Tibetan serfdom system of unpaid labor.
2. They eliminated the many crushing taxes,
3. started work projects, and
4. greatly reduced unemployment and beggary.
5. They established secular schools, thereby breaking the educational monopoly of the monasteries.
6. And they constructed running water and electrical systems in Lhasa.
. . .
By 1961, Chinese occupation authorities expropriated the landed estates owned by lords and lamas. They distributed many thousands of acres to tenant farmers and landless peasants, reorganizing them into hundreds of communes.. Herds once owned by nobility were turned over to collectives of poor shepherds. Improvements were made in the breeding of livestock, and new varieties of vegetables and new strains of wheat and barley were introduced, along with irrigation improvements, all of which reportedly led to an increase in agrarian production.
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And the dissent is starting to look quite a bit more like Made In USA. Approximately 100 per cent of it.
Fascist monks it is.
still quoting . . .
In 1959, Anna Louise Strong visited an exhibition of torture equipment that had been used by the Tibetan overlords. There were handcuffs of all sizes, including small ones for children, and instruments for cutting off noses and ears, gouging out eyes, breaking off hands, and hamstringing legs. There were hot brands, whips, and special implements for disemboweling.